Congress, Turkey and Genocide

[Yeager]

Apparently our Pelosi controlled congress thinks it can further undermine this nation by insulting a friendly muslim nation that is a leading secular democracy and example for all those backward muslim nations to strive for.

If we are going to pin the term genocide on the Turks we might as well pin it on ourselves.....remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/11/us.turkey.armenians/index.html

hypocracy in action

[1K3]

Thank the Armenian diasporas who lobbied hard for this.

[Eagler]

what until the inexperienced black muslim is our vp with the power cooter running the show - you haven't seen anything yet

[cpxxx]

Huh? The Turks are blazing hyprocrites. It is long past time for them to admit to themselves and everyone else what they did in the past. But they have some serious illusions about themselves.

They are madly keen to join the EU but simply can't bring themselves to raise their standards of human rights and freedom to a level we would find acceptable. Their attitude to the Kurds lacks a certain humanitarian aspect too.

I doubt if there would be many ramifications for the US. The Turks need the US more than the US needs them.  In fact this resolution is an excellent example of the good America can do. America is often accused of ignoring the human rights record of it's allies and puppets for strategic reasons.

It seems, you are dammed if do and dammed if you don't.

[Ripsnort]

WTG Pelosi! The House Committee on Foreign Affairs passed the measure 27-21 Wednesday, even though President Bush and key administration figures lobbied hard against it. The full House is expected to vote on it, possibly Friday.

[Mickey1992]

Every time I see another non-binding (read: useless) resolution get shoved through I despise the Congressional leadership even more.

[Saxman]

Originally posted by Yeager

If we are going to pin the term genocide on the Turks we might as well pin it on ourselves.....remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
 

There's a big, BIG difference between what the Turks and the A-bombs did. I'm not condoning the bombings, (that's another debate entirely) but you're comparing apples to flippin' oranges.

[crockett]

Originally posted by Yeager
Apparently our Pelosi controlled congress thinks it can further undermine this nation by insulting a friendly muslim nation that is a leading secular democracy and example for all those backward muslim nations to strive for.

If we are going to pin the term genocide on the Turks we might as well pin it on ourselves.....remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/11/us.turkey.armenians/index.html

hypocracy in action

So we should just say it's ok because it might hurt Turkey's feelings? Kinda like we go along with the fact that we know Saudi Arabia has supported terrorist yet we call them buddies because they over charge us for oil?

BTW, while our bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki might have caused mass amounts of civilian deaths. We wern't trying to kill japanese just because they were japanese. Meaning we wern't ethnic cleansing.

Personally I think it silly to be worried about something that happened during ww1. But I guess what ever floats their boats, at least it's better than them arguing about newspaper adds.

[Vulcan]

Turkeys will never forget thanksgiving.....

[Yeager]

We wern't trying to kill japanese just because they were japanese. Meaning we wern't ethnic cleansing.
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A lighter shade of grey perhaps, depending on who you talk to.  Point is, city killing is a abhorrent form of genocide, whether you want it to be or not.

Turkey killing hundreds of thousands of innocent armenians nearly 100 years ago is the business of Turkey to admit to and ask forgiveness for.  In the event they do not want to do that, I would suggest a more peaceful world today could be achieved by remaining friends with the Turks rather than alienating them from us with this very harmful and accusatory rhetoric dribbling fourth from the house.

[Charon]

"Yesterday some in Congress wanted to play hardball," said Egemen Bagis, foreign policy adviser to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. "I can assure you Turkey knows how to play hardball."

Damn Straight

Charon

[FrodeMk3]

We'll probably get into it with Turkey sooner or later, anyway-They want to invade Northern Iraq to go after the Kurdish PKK group there.

This is the way things are gonna be in the Middle east from now on. Best get used to it now.

[john9001]

Turkey was never a friend of the USA, they only pretended to be because they were afraid of the USSR.
Remember Turkey did not let US troops cross turkey in get into northern Iraq.

[Maverick]

Much ado about nothing. Instead of doing something to support the nation they just pass irrelevent political posturing bills. It would be far better to do something of substance than just apply a label to an act committed in another country by other people.

This is a great example of the inability of Congress (both Houses) to do anything worthwhile. All flash and no substance.

[Xargos]

Hitlers famous speech:

"I have issued the command -- and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad -- that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness -- for the present only in the East -- with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space [Lebensraum] which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

Hitler got his idea from the Turks.  Blaming the Nazi for what they did and not blaming the Turks for what they did seems hypocritical.  But I guess since these butchers are ours it's OK.