A different point of view.

[DieAz]

Originally posted by Toad
MT, do you consider this a top water lure? Or is it a shallow running spinner?

BTW, be careful; Fish & Game may want to see your license and check the live box. I think you're over the limit and some may not meet the size requirement.

more like the illegal use of 5 miles of trotline using live bait, on an inland body of water. (well, illegal in this state anyway.)

[Eagler]

Originally posted by DieAz
more like the illegal use of 5 miles of trotline using live bait, on an inland body of water. (well, illegal in this state anyway.)

more like a couple of bundles of these:


LOL

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Druss
Hey MT -

definition of a fanatic/lunatic: 1) they never change their mind, and 2) they never change the subject.

You sound like a broken record, my friend. I can tell what your response will be to any thread before you even post it.

You bore me, dude.

Guess what I'm thinking now...

[JBA]

you should be thinking...

how come we blacks have  72% illegitimate children.
how come we graduate HS at just 30%

Let's look at poverty in female-headed households. Divorce and death of the father might explain a small part of why there're so many female-headed households. But the bulk of it is explained by people having children and not getting married in the first place. Having children is not an act of God. It's not like you're walking down the street and pregnancy strikes you; children are a result of a conscious decision. For the most part female-headed households are the result of short-sighted, self-destructive behavior of one or two people. They might have bought into the nonsense of "experts" like John Hopkins University sociologist Professor Andrew Cherlin who said, "It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes." The real issue, according to Professor Cherlin "is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income." That's a call for fathers to be replaced by a government welfare check.


Most middle class Americans, including black Americans, are no more than one, two or three generations out of poverty. How did they manage this feat; what's the secret for avoiding poverty? I think it's a no-brainer. Finish high school and take a job, any kind of a job. Today, but not when I graduated in 1954, if a person graduates from high school, with even a C average, there is a college or some kind of skills training program somewhere for him and often financial assistance to boot.

Walter E. Williams http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/03/povamerica.html


In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences, have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/05/poverty.html

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/03/poverty.html


http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/03/poverty.html

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/02/poverty.html

I can do this all day, like shooting fish in a barrel.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by JBA
like shooting fish in a barrel.

it sure is..

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by JBA
you should be thinking...

how come we blacks have  72% illegitimate children.
how come we graduate HS at just 30%

Let's look at poverty in female-headed households. Divorce and death of the father might explain a small part of why there're so many female-headed households. But the bulk of it is explained by people having children and not getting married in the first place. Having children is not an act of God. It's not like you're walking down the street and pregnancy strikes you; children are a result of a conscious decision. For the most part female-headed households are the result of short-sighted, self-destructive behavior of one or two people. They might have bought into the nonsense of "experts" like John Hopkins University sociologist Professor Andrew Cherlin who said, "It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes." The real issue, according to Professor Cherlin "is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income." That's a call for fathers to be replaced by a government welfare check.


Most middle class Americans, including black Americans, are no more than one, two or three generations out of poverty. How did they manage this feat; what's the secret for avoiding poverty? I think it's a no-brainer. Finish high school and take a job, any kind of a job. Today, but not when I graduated in 1954, if a person graduates from high school, with even a C average, there is a college or some kind of skills training program somewhere for him and often financial assistance to boot.

Walter E. Williams http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/03/povamerica.html


In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences, have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/05/poverty.html

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/03/poverty.html


http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/03/poverty.html

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/02/poverty.html

I can do this all day, like shooting fish in a barrel.

It's the culture that affects the black youth...It's destructive. The "All you needs' is you homies" attitude, that leads to lives of crime, of the negligence of education, of immersion into drugs.

And it's slowly spreading through all the races' in the U.S. It's just strongest among the black population, right now.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by parker00
Does everyone really feel there is a level playing field? Are you all really that naive or just in denial? Being a 30 yr old white male I can even see the differences yet so many on here think its fair.   Not saying they don't have a chance but come on now the cards are stacked against them.

there is no level playing feild. For anyone.
No matter what your race. Unless your born into money. Or get VERY lucky.
Its an uphill battle with people and life rolling big boulders down upon you all the way up.

I see alot of people of all races who make it. and alot of people from all races who dont.
And alot who never even try. Who bring themselves down. or hold themselves down.


I see very few instances of one group holding another down anymore.
But there will always be people who try no matter what and for varying reasons.
From race, to they dont like your style of haircut.

That life. Life is unfair.

Like I told both my kids and my daughter a couple of weeks ago when she claimed something "wasnt fair."

"Get used to it. Life is often anything but fair. the difference is in how you deal with it. You can lay down and quit. or you can get up and try again. and again, and again untill you succeed."

But I dont beleive in coddling kids from the unpleasentries of life in the world. I do thm no favors by doing so. And in fact view such a thing as being irresponcable as they are one day going to have to actually survive and thrive or wither in it all on their own without me there to protect them

[Druss]

"   quote:Originally posted by Druss
    Hey MT -

    definition of a fanatic/lunatic: 1) they never change their mind, and 2) they never change the subject.

    You sound like a broken record, my friend. I can tell what your response will be to any thread before you even post it.

    You bore me, dude.



Guess what I'm thinking now..."

That you want to whine and cry some more. Ha Ha! I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously anymore. You aren't a real person, you are a caracature! I'm putting you on ignore until you grow up. So long little boy!

LOL.

[midnight Target]

Please put me on ignore, cause you are obviously lacking in reading comprehension skills. I really hate to "type" down a level. Maybe after you graduate you'll pick up some of the subtleties and learn to enjoy my prose. Then again... maybe not.

Just for fun though... read my first post. Which of those items did I say I agreed with?

[lazs2]

Thanks MT.. it is always good to put this stuff out there to educate the likes of parker..

It is also uplifting to see that so many are paying attention to what is really going on and finally getting it.

I would never work with women or negros if I had the choice...  I can and I would if I had to but... work is tough enough.. why make it more uncomfortable if you don't have to?

Married people don't mind near so much tho since they are used to walking on eggs all the time.   I don't really want to put up with it if I don't have to.   Having to be careful what you say or how it is taken... boring.

lazs

[JBA]

Originally posted by midnight Target
it sure is..

shooting down your "I’m just a victim" is getting boring and to easy.

No educated Black man or woman agrees with you unless they have a stack in keeping the races agitated. i.e. Jackson or sharpton or the Democratic party.

[Halo]

This thread gets me to wondering ... do European heritage Americans going to live in Africa become American-Africans or Euro-Amer-Africans?  Do white people born in Africa who come to live in America become African-Americans?

Come to think of it, continental origin may not be the most accurate description of race.  

Neither is skin color since many whites are dark and many blacks are light and many are in between.  

Will be nice when we don't have to get more specific than human.

Of course that's if females will continue to accept being part of feMALE and huMAN.

[Druss]

I reread the letter MT. I did not notice your first line. I jumped the gun.

My apologies.

[midnight Target]

Accepted... group hug.




Maybe JBA should learn to read too.

[Druss]

Thanks, MT.