Author Topic: Avengers game play style (Read 1749 times)

lutrel · « **on:** October 24, 2007, 07:14:51 PM »

Gentlemen, I hear through the grapevine that it is frowned upon to bomb and take bases. I do understand about the map not auto resetting being an issue here too. Let it be known that we will conduct offenses on fields and even capture them; if lucky. But, by no means will we ever pork the map and bail out; if we were to have negative effects on the map, we would gladly switch sides and fix it.

We have flown together for almost ten years and we have a style of flying that should benefit the arena and not have any negative effects on game play. We are very used to set allied vs axis plane sets and realistic scenarios and are looking forward to setteling in here. Mondays and Thursdays we may pick out one or two fields and spar over them with the enemy all evening; but it will be an all out assault on a field or two. On most other nights we pop in as a smaller group and wing up in fighters for fun. We enjoy a good scrap in a fighter as much as the next guy, but we also enjoy the assault on a field with escort on our squad nights. We use a monthly rotation between allied and axis and will rotate on that schedule. Please bare with us as we are still relatively new in this flight sim.

Most of us are either military or ex military, are pretty thick skinned and enjoy the friendly jabs back and forth on the radio. Please let me know if any of my guys do cross the line and we will escort them back over.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2007, 08:54:34 PM »

Thank you for that sir

~~I'm not a staff member or an arena 'leader' but knowing that clears up a lot for me.~~

KONG1 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2007, 09:46:06 PM »

I need a little clarification. Exactly with whom do you intend to "spar over bases". People take bases all the time in the AvA. They're generally ignored. I'm sure nobody minds if you trade off bases but you may need to bring a "sparing partner".

Then there's the problem that sometimes the settings don't accommodate base taking. The ack is set to such a weak setting you can fly right through it and the puffy is set even lower. Be real easy for one plane to pork your ords and troops. That is if the down time isn't set real short making caping a base very difficult. Sucks when you pop a town building and it comes up in 30 seconds.

This doesn't bode well, maybe we should reconfigure all the setups for base taking....yeah that's the ticket...lets do that.

lutrel · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2007, 06:26:33 AM »

So your saying you guys have created a glorified Dueling Arena? Reguardless of settings, we will fly as mentioned above; you can ignor us or fight us, your call.

KONG1 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2007, 09:40:37 AM »

Your best bet is to pick 2 apposing bases take one switch sides take it back. That can be real challenging especially if the down times are short and the number of troops to capture is high.

When numbers are low, say 4 or less, it's pretty much a dueling arena with different planes. When the numbers are high, lets say over 24, its more of a furball arena. The in-between numbers give you something, well, in-between. The "in-between" numbers cause the most arguments because some want to duel and some want to furball. I would describe it as onesy-twosy fights with threat of interference. When the numbers are over 50 it usually becomes the proverbial cluster-f (this only happens when the MAs go down). It can all be fun.

Just as the quake guys play different games with their engine (deathmatch, capture the flag, defend the fort, whatever), AH is just an engine and many games can be played. You can always take undefended bases in any of 4 arenas where they play the land grab game, but nobody really cares if you take them in the AvA as long as the arena doesn't get screwed up. Who knows maybe some bored guys will up some planes and shoot at ya, never can tell.

lutrel · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2007, 04:25:30 PM »

LOL, there is no threat of us capturing a lot of bases at the moment guys. We find the flight models pretty simular to what we have flown for the last 9+ years and can hold our own in the fighters. It's all the little proceedural differences, that we are learning as we go, that will keep us a smaller threat for a while longer on the base taking side of the game. Feel free to laugh when ever we fumble the ball.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:11:53 PM »

can I point, giggle, and roll film too?

lutrel · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:16:08 PM »

By all means do, it will make a good family album to look at in a few years...............

Dace · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:34:25 PM »

In all seriousness, why did you choose the AvA to conduct your operations? It is widely known that the AvA is really not set up for the "base capture game".

lutrel · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2007, 05:43:30 PM »

In all seriousness, we chose the AvA arena because it fits more closely to what we are used to flying in. We just feel that when flying an Allied aircraft it is silly to fight another Allied aircraft and visa versa for the Axis planes too. We are also used to a smaller crowd than what usually haunts the main arenas; those arenas tend to be a little chaotic to us. We like the more realistic plane set found in the AvA arena and the smaller crowd will give us the room we need to learn the proceedures of the game. We are not knocking the main arenas; what ever floats their boat.

humble · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »

FSO is really the best place for "historical" gameplay. I have very little current experience in the AvA (never anyone up when I look) but from the current threads it seems very little has changed. While the planeset might fit your preferance the current state of affairs might not. Then again maybe you'll draw more numbers....personally I think furball island in the DA probably will continue to "out draw" the AvA.

My personal thoughts have been that "digital dirt" squads (and squads in general) belong more in the MA then what was the CT. This is not philosophical but an obsevation of the effects on gameplay over time. The comments in the other thread reflect the general distaste by many (myself included) for at least some of the "squads" in the AvA.

E25280 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2007, 07:17:25 PM »

Don't let all these guys pee in your cornflakes. If you want to take bases, knock yourself out. But, unless you like running bases unopposed, announce on 200 what base your target is, and challenge those on the other side to stop you.

Some of the most fun we've had in the AvA (IMO) is when someone like Filth would put together a mission, announced it well ahead of time, and let anyone who showed up pick a side and have at it. There is no reason a similar thing couldn't be done over a base or two in a more impromptu fashion.

Dace · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2007, 07:37:13 PM »

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Originally posted by lutrel
In all seriousness, we chose the AvA arena because it fits more closely to what we are used to flying in. We just feel that when flying an Allied aircraft it is silly to fight another Allied aircraft and visa versa for the Axis planes too. We are also used to a smaller crowd than what usually haunts the main arenas; those arenas tend to be a little chaotic to us. We like the more realistic plane set found in the AvA arena and the smaller crowd will give us the room we need to learn the proceedures of the game. We are not knocking the main arenas; what ever floats their boat.

~~Fair enough.~~

Dichotomy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2007, 08:02:47 PM »

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Originally posted by E25280
Don't let all these guys pee in your cornflakes. If you want to take bases, knock yourself out. But, unless you like running bases unopposed, announce on 200 what base your target is, and challenge those on the other side to stop you.

Some of the most fun we've had in the AvA (IMO) is when someone like Filth would put together a mission, announced it well ahead of time, and let anyone who showed up pick a side and have at it. There is no reason a similar thing couldn't be done over a base or two in a more impromptu fashion.

Indeed

Oldman731 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2007, 08:27:14 PM »

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Originally posted by E25280
Don't let all these guys pee in your cornflakes. If you want to take bases, knock yourself out. But, unless you like running bases unopposed, announce on 200 what base your target is, and challenge those on the other side to stop you.

Some of the most fun we've had in the AvA (IMO) is when someone like Filth would put together a mission, announced it well ahead of time, and let anyone who showed up pick a side and have at it. There is no reason a similar thing couldn't be done over a base or two in a more impromptu fashion.

True, and excellent advice. Back in the dawn of AH time, base taking was created to focus the fights, not as an end in itself.

Or so I have read.

- oldman