Collisions

[Rich46yo]

Im trying to understand how collisions work in this game. The way I read AH rules if you collide from the rear then you are not judged as having "collided". A few days ago a P-51 ran into all 3 of my bombers from the rear and he was credited with 3 kills even tho he didn't even earn one. Yesterday a fighter ran right into the rear of one bomber and the fighter was also credited with a kill while I lost a bomber.

                     Its not like I can run into someone backwards while flying away from them at 290 mph. What gives here?

                   And personally? If I was in a fighter going 450 mph and ran into a bombers rear end?? I would comm an apology.

                 But...I was raised in an era where Politeness was the norm.

[Murdr]

There are two realities in AH.  What you see on your front end, and what the other player sees on their front end.  Those realities are close, but not exactly the same.  Plane positions will vary slightly between two front ends.

If your front end detects a collusion with another plane, you get an orange message, and you take the appropriate damage.  If the other player detects a collusion with you on their front end, you get a white message, and they take the appropriate damage.

It does not matter how it happens, if somebodies front end detects another plane occupying the same virtual space as their plane, a collusion happens for them.

[pluck]

I don't think it matters at all where you collide.

If your computer sees yourself, or someone else hit you, you will take damage.  Same goes for the other guy.

It gets a bit weird, when one computer sees a collision and the other does not...causing one person to suffer damage and the other (because there computer did not see a collision) takes no damage.  This is the cause for most complaints, but when looking at other options, there is no way to make it better.  In one scenario, if both take damage whether or not both computers see a collision, you may be getting collision messages at d400.  On the other side, if no collisions allowed, then you could fly straight through the enemy, shooting him from the inside out, and then fly off as if nothing unusual happened.

It's all due to transfering information between yourself and AH.  In that situation, I would think your computer saw a collision, however, to the other guy was just close and shooting.  If he landed any pings, he gets the kill, If not, maybe proxies.

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
The way I read AH rules if you collide from the rear then you are not judged as having "collided".

Where is this documented?

[Balsy]

In the AH rules..

[swoop777]

Hopefully this clears up any confusion  on why collisions happen<>

[bongaroo]

a red x?

link to the picture bad or is it something flash based, no flash stuff for me here at work.

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Balsy
In the AH rules..

Really, where?

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Balsy
In the AH rules..

Originally posted by Donzo
Really, where?

Section 14, paragraph 12, subsection b.  I think he misinterpreted the meaning of "front end".  

What?  Didn't you get a copy with your subscription Donzo?

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Murdr
Section 14, paragraph 12, subsection b.  I think he misinterpreted the meaning of "front end".  

What?  Didn't you get a copy with your subscription Donzo?

A misinterpretation of "front end"?

Now that is an interesting twist on the age old collision threads (refreshing actually).  

And no, I did not get a copy of the rules with my subscription.

[hitech]

Terminology.

Front End = Client = Your Computer
Back End = Server = Host Computer

Good catch on the front and back of airplanes.


HiTech

[Donzo]

Originally posted by hitech
Terminology.

Front End = Client = Your Computer
Back End = Server = Host Computer

Good catch on the front and back of airplanes.


HiTech

Ok, who are you and what have you done with HiTech?

All the words are spelled correctly

[Murdr]

Yea, HiTech using that firefox 2 with a built in spell checker has been a real fun killer , but it doesn't tell him when he uses the wrong homonym (eg. pier for peer, affect for effect), so there is still hope

[Bronk]

Cut-n-Paste

Enjoy

Originally posted by Bronk
Slappy, it's my personal windmill.

Tangle's external from his front end the moment of impact.





Same basic angle external, tangle's view from my front end moment of impact.




How would you feel taking damage looking at your film and seeing tangles front end view, hmmmmmm?


I know I'd be pretty POed.

Bronk

Edit: This also works nicely for the "none should take damage" people.

Yea I should be able to put the nose of my ac through another.

[Shuffler]

Originally posted by pluck
I don't think it matters at all where you collide.

If your computer sees yourself, or someone else hit you, you will take damage.  Same goes for the other guy.

It gets a bit weird, when one computer sees a collision and the other does not...causing one person to suffer damage and the other (because there computer did not see a collision) takes no damage.  This is the cause for most complaints, but when looking at other options, there is no way to make it better.  In one scenario, if both take damage whether or not both computers see a collision, you may be getting collision messages at d400.  On the other side, if no collisions allowed, then you could fly straight through the enemy, shooting him from the inside out, and then fly off as if nothing unusual happened.

It's all due to transfering information between yourself and AH.  In that situation, I would think your computer saw a collision, however, to the other guy was just close and shooting.  If he landed any pings, he gets the kill, If not, maybe proxies.

Hence why I close my eyes if my plane is compressing on a dive to kill bombers!