Author Topic: Okinawa: The Final Battle Sides and CICs (Read 1075 times)

Nefarious · « **on:** November 24, 2007, 06:20:13 PM »

Allied:

613th SOS Pariah - ushowler - CIC FRAME 1 on 2007-11-30
56th Fighter Group - Nomde - CIC FRAME 2 on 2007-12-07
347th Fighter Wing - 68Falcon - 16-21 - CIC FRAME 3 on 2007-12-14
325th Checkertails VFG - CUTT - 7-10
353rd Fighter Group - TheBug
880 Sqn Fleet Air Arm - Warloc - 4-6
9GIAP VVS RKKA - Dantoo - 4-6
Arabian Knights - AKDogg - 16-21
Damned SE - Drano - 7-10
FIGHTING 31 - rattfink - 7-10
JG11 - Vater - 7-10
JV44 Butcher Birds - WOLF359 - 7-10
Nightmares VMF-101 - GhstDncr - 16-21
Raw Prawns - ftjr - 4-6
VFA-169 Excaliburs - Ruger44 - 4-6
VFS 1000 Cyberhawks - Longdist - 4-6

Axis:

Clowns of Death - Kurt - 7-10 - CIC FRAME 1 on 2007-11-30
Isle of Misfit Toys - DaWop1 - 4-6 - CIC FRAME 2 on 2007-12-07
364th C-HAWKS FG - SpiveyCH - 16-21 - CIC FRAME 3 on 2007-12-14
327th Steel Talons - Tried - 7-10
332nd Flying Mongrels - daddog - 22-27
348th Fighter Group - Stoney74 - 7-10
475FG ==**SATANS ANGELS**== - Savlan - 4-6
65th FS ~Fightin' Rogues~ - Dace - 4-6
HellCat FG - WildAzz - 4-6
LCA - Pez - 11-15
=55th= VelociRaptors - Turbo10 - 4-6
The Unforgiven - Mystic2 - 16-21
USMC / 71sqn - TracerX - 11-15
~~~ The Killuminati ~~~ - Kermit - 4-6
~~~FATE~~~ - Bannor - 11-15

Orders to follow shortly.

Husky01 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2007, 06:30:10 PM »

Bearkats checking in for the 56th Fight Group CiC Frame 2.

68falcon · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2007, 07:02:28 PM »

Got it

doobs · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2007, 07:09:40 PM »

husky I'll wring your little neck, if ya do what you said you would do.

Husky01 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2007, 07:21:42 PM »

haha:lol

doobs · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2007, 07:37:22 PM »

don't laugh I'll post your video

Kurt · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2007, 08:43:05 PM »

Orders received... And I understand I am frame 1 AXIS CIC...

This rule, is going to be a nightmare for you and for the CIC's

All Aircraft must be flown, every frame with a minimum
of 20 Aircraft Each!
A 50 Point Penalty will be enforced for every Aircraft
Under the Minimum.

It needs revision - How the heck can we control if a squad shows up under numbers? Or if multiple squads on the same plane show up under numbers causing a shortage? There needs to be some method of reconciling for a bad turnout if the CIC sticks with the spirit of the rule (And I will, I'm a good boy).

Perhaps you should call percentages rather than a hard number? Or build in a percentage of 'no show' allowance as long as the squad numbers (according to minimums) are met in the orders?

This rule really needs some adjusting.

ROC · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2007, 08:52:41 PM »

Kurt, wouldn't that be the CiCs job of communicating with the squads in his or her charge so that this does not occur?

That is the single biggest thing that FSO falls short on. The people that are leading the frames stuff out the orders then file and forget. Get your guys involved, talk to them, interact with them. The only downside is you get an improved line of communication going, that can't be all bad can it?

Take some of the pages out of a scenario and bring them to the FSO, they work in the scenarios for a reason. Why is it a Design or Rule problem if the Players don't show up?

Come on, Stimulate, Invigorate, Motivate, make em Want to flock to your banner!

Hope this helps, if not, disregard.

SuBWaYCH · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2007, 09:49:18 PM »

Wow, Frame 3 will be one hell of a match! Spivey vs Falcon! Oh boy. My money is on Spivey!

Regards,
Subway

68falcon · « **Reply #9 on:** November 24, 2007, 09:56:21 PM »

Easy SubwayCH you could wind up being the only target

SuBWaYCH · « **Reply #10 on:** November 24, 2007, 10:24:33 PM »

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Originally posted by 68falcon
Easy SubwayCH you could wind up being the only target

*Waits for the Frame 3 logs to be posted*

Regards,
Subway

doobs · « **Reply #11 on:** November 24, 2007, 10:38:25 PM »

falcon, money on you.

I've seen ya more than 11 months

and who is this spivey you speak of:p

Kurt · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2007, 12:59:23 AM »

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Originally posted by ROC
Kurt, wouldn't that be the CiCs job of communicating with the squads in his or her charge so that this does not occur?

That is the single biggest thing that FSO falls short on. The people that are leading the frames stuff out the orders then file and forget. Come on, Stimulate, Invigorate, Motivate, make em Want to flock to your banner!

Hope this helps, if not, disregard.

Hey, lets not forget, I'm undefeated as a CIC... I don't write cruddy plans on napkins Roc.. (well, I did do that one time, but we still won the frame).

All I'm saying is that if I had a couple squads assigned to a plane and those two squads came up short, we're looking at penalties EVEN THOUGH the plan clearly had enough planes (even at minimums) to cover the requirement.

And I'm not putting the weight on the CM Staff to make FSO fun... What I'm saying is if you are going to add a rule, add a rule that works.

I'm not concerned about my frame... I'm just telling you that at some point in the future (my frame or someone elses) this exact situation I've detailed for you is going to happen. And when it does you're going to pull victory from a deserving team because 'Squad X' didn't show up...

Frankly, thats a bad rule. Because no matter how proactive anyone is, we can't prevent some flakey squad from signing up or failing to show up... And I think its kinda weak to pin that failure on the whole (axis or allied) team, Especially to the tune of 50 points per violation.

If one ten man team doesn't show up, you're docked 500 points. Not because the CIC didn't make the plan, but because of one or two irresponsible C.O.'s.

I've been told my squad is getting escorted by a 10 man squad and seen that squad NOT show up. More than once frankly. I end up with this one guy in a P51 flying along side going "Gee, sorry my guys didn't show".

Lets not pretend like it never happens.

Nefarious · « **Reply #13 on:** November 25, 2007, 10:10:23 AM »

I thought about it some more, and I have lowered the penalty to 10 points per aircraft.

- All Aircraft must be flown, every frame with a minimum of 20 Aircraft Each!
- A 10 Point Penalty will be enforced for every Aircraft Under the Minimum.

http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/okinawa-the-final-battle.html

RATTFINK · « **Reply #14 on:** November 25, 2007, 10:44:15 AM »

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Originally posted by ROC
Get your guys involved, talk to them, interact with them. The only downside is you get an improved line of communication going, that can't be all bad can it?

It can if they do not communicate or have bad e-mail addresses. But hopefully this can be resolved.

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Frankly, thats a bad rule. Because no matter how proactive anyone is, we can't prevent some flakey squad from signing up or failing to show up... And I think its kinda weak to pin that failure on the whole (axis or allied) team, Especially to the tune of 50 points per violation.

Correct, indeed.

Good luck ushowler, BearKats, & 68Falcon the Fighting 31 wishes you all the best and hope we can shut out the IJN.

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