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Offline DEAR98

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P-47 which is the best and best way to use it?
« on: December 02, 2007, 08:11:23 PM »
ive been told that the D-25 is the best but Soda gave it a weak points off like a light bulb. And how much guns and ammo should you have?
please help
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 09:23:10 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 09:24:21 PM »
Everyone has an opinion, I like "N" model --though its bigger/heavier/somewhat less nimble, (climbs like crap too) it leaves the others in the dust as long as wep holds out (5-10 min?) The better jug sticks seem to like the D40 best...try to be at half tank or less when fighting commences. MANY opinions soon to follow:) I always take every bullet I can carry, not like a few hundred pounds matters on a 7 ton plane
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2007, 01:01:07 AM »
It's all a matter of personal preference.  Try and find a few of the guys from the 56th or the 71 RAF squads.  Several good jug pilots that come to mind are RedTop, JensK, BearKats....(I know there are many others from these squads, but I'm stuck at work and can't type too much).  

I prefer the D40 because of the dive flaps (great for slowing this baby down in a hurry).  I've also flown the D25 because it's a little better of a turner than the D40.  Of course if you take less fuel and ammo, you'll have better performance either way.  IMO, the Jug should never be taken with the 6 gun option, but hey, thats me.  The more ammo to shoot, the better.

Check the roster for any of those guys.  I'm sure they can give you some great tips.  They all fly for the Knights.  


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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2007, 06:49:48 AM »
the D-11 is the best dogfighting jug there is ;)

it's the fastest (apart from the N at WEP) and lightest, and turns a lot better than the others. keep it quiet though, no one really knows that ;)

a lot of jug pilots like the D25 though, because it's still fairly turny, but has a bubble canopy for much better visibility.

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 07:13:12 AM »
There is no best and even the "best" P47 is not much in MA conditions. P47 model differences are small enough to make this a matter of cooler skins and cockpit layout. Even the N is not that a different beast at relevant altitudes and besides the somewhat better option of running away/down from/the opponent, I consider it the 'worst' dogfighter of the bunch. Again we are talking about minor differences.

If you want to fly the jug in a fighter role, you are not the cookie cutter, min/max type. That doesn't mean you shouldn't fully use your plane's abilities though. So:

Fuel load is the most important parameter affecting your performance. Learn to cruise with reduced RPM so you can spend most of your time fighting with less than 50% fuel and make it home on fumes. This is most important in the N which is a total pig with more than 50% on board. Just keep in mind that the N's fuel load is more than 5 fully fueled 109s. If you want to save on weight, this is the place. Much better than leaving gun and ammo behind.

The second is the WEP. Do not be tempted to spend the WEP on the climbout, unless you are far far away from the action. Without it you become a Sumo wrestler after 3 days without sleep. Loose the WEP on the N and you turned from a hot rod to a single engined transport.

Guns, oh yes. Some will swear that the weight reduction from 6 gun package and reduced ammo load will win their fights. I much rather reduce my weight by shooting that excess ammo into the enemy instead of leaving it on the ground. Just go trigger happy till the counters are down to 1000, which is the same as the smaller load. Then start to aim.
The 6 guns vs. 8 may help a little if you are a good shot. I find it is much more important to deliver a killing blow when I create the opportunity, than the contribution of the weight reduction in creating that opportunity. Usually, if you don't kill, even dumping all you guns over board will not save you.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 08:46:22 AM »
I was a die hard D11 fan as I found it holds the "edge" better than the other models in a knife/turn fite.  Where it loses in fuel load out.  What I have found with a little experimenting is that the D40 is just as capable and carries alot more fuel.  I believe the paddle prop gives it an edge in climb also.

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 01:39:55 PM »
Just my preference for what it's worth; The D-25.

The D-11 is lghter and turns better, the D-40 carries more ord.  The D-25 is the perfect all around Jug.

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 03:30:07 PM »
I take the D-11 for dogfighting, N for hitting targets, and D-25 and D-40 for if theres a chance I'll have to do both.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2007, 03:37:31 PM »
well ok i thought there was a start ford anser but thank you
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2007, 04:55:44 PM »
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Do not be tempted to spend the WEP on the climbout, unless you are far far away from the action. Without it you become a Sumo wrestler after 3 days without sleep. Loose the WEP on the N and you turned from a hot rod to a single engined transport.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2007, 04:56:00 PM »
D25 , d11 , N , D40...


Take your pick and be prepared to ALWAYS be one of the FIRST to get engaged.....seems like people REALLY think the JUGS are easy kills. I LOVE to fly it. Its a challenge and can be with out a doubt some of the BEST fun you can have with your clothes on in a flight sim:lol

When you get it low and slow...flaps up , down , up , down down up , throttle choppin  , full blast firewalled , yanking and stall fighting....it is a FRIKIN HOOT.

Have fun...be prepared to get shot alot...and no matter what....don't give up on it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2007, 07:06:26 PM »
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Originally posted by RedTop
D25 , d11 , N , D40...


Take your pick and be prepared to ALWAYS be one of the FIRST to get engaged.....seems like people REALLY think the JUGS are easy kills. I LOVE to fly it. Its a challenge and can be with out a doubt some of the BEST fun you can have with your clothes on in a flight sim:lol

When you get it low and slow...flaps up , down , up , down down up , throttle choppin  , full blast firewalled , yanking and stall fighting....it is a FRIKIN HOOT.

Have fun...be prepared to get shot alot...and no matter what....don't give up on it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 07:39:36 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2007, 03:13:12 AM »
I personally like the D11 best for dogfighting.  It handles really well and seems to improve as your fuel load lightens up.

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