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« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2007, 04:17:20 PM »
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We were there on a humanitarian mission in support of UN Resolution 1511 calling for a multinational force to help bring stability and security to Iraq after you clearly botched the job.



what was the last major operation anywhere in the world that Norway took the leading role in?

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« Reply #106 on: December 19, 2007, 04:22:39 PM »
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what was the last major operation anywhere in the world that Norway took the leading role in?


Probably one of the wars we had with Sweden back in the 18th century, why?

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« Reply #107 on: December 19, 2007, 04:40:33 PM »
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Probably one of the wars we had with Sweden back in the 18th century, why?


My point is its easy to criticize.

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« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2007, 04:52:54 PM »
Shouldn't it be?

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« Reply #109 on: December 19, 2007, 04:57:22 PM »
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Where do you get your information?




US Denies Approving Turkey Raid

US denies backing Turkey PKK raid

US denies backing Turkish raid in Iraq


The only people saying the US approved the incursions are the Turkish authorities. The US government denies it.


Where do you get your information WMLute?


Nice spin.

US embassy in Baghdad said it denies having given permission based on the fact that they do not have that power of authority.

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We have not approved any decision, it is not for us to approve. However, we were informed before the event," the official told Reuters news agency.

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« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2007, 05:14:50 PM »
From the BBC link:

"A US official in Turkey said commanders had not approved the attacks, but had been informed before they took place."



Ripsnort, why don't you provide a source where US authorities says they approved the attack?

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« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2007, 05:23:06 PM »
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From the BBC link:

"A US official in Turkey said commanders had not approved the attacks, but had been informed before they took place."



Ripsnort, why don't you provide a source where US authorities says they approved the attack?

US embassy officials in either Iraq nor Turkey do NOT have the authority to approve Turkish attacks!  How dense can you be?!?!

Why do I need to provide a source where they said they approved them? The U.S. is not Turkey.

I believe the U.S. just chose to look the other way.

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« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2007, 05:37:47 PM »
Heh, so you're now saying US authorities did not approve the attack. Why didn't you just say so in the first place?

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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2007, 06:51:46 PM »
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Heh, so you're now saying US authorities did not approve the attack. Why didn't you just say so in the first place?


You guys' are in here fighting about whether or not the U.S. approved the attacks. They did.

The question should be why, and what kind of repurcussions' the U.S. is going to have because of it.(Terrorist, diplomatic, economic, whatever.)

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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2007, 07:06:44 PM »
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You guys' are in here fighting about whether or not the U.S. approved the attacks. They did.


What is your source?

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« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2007, 07:20:18 PM »
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Heh, so you're now saying US authorities did not approve the attack. Why didn't you just say so in the first place?
They don't approve or disapprove of anything Turkey does.  Damn, do I have to spell this out? Turkey military is not US military. Our commanders do not tell their commanders what or what not to do.

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« Reply #116 on: December 19, 2007, 07:25:41 PM »
When the Turkish military operates in US controlled airspace your commanders most definitely can tell them what or what not to do. You were talking about being dense...

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« Reply #117 on: December 19, 2007, 07:40:24 PM »
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When the Turkish military operates in US controlled airspace your commanders most definitely can tell them what or what not to do. You were talking about being dense...

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I believe the U.S. just chose to look the other way.


*SIGH*  Everything is not black and white as you'd like it to be, but perhaps that's the only way you can comprehend politics?

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« Reply #118 on: December 19, 2007, 08:10:59 PM »
So after all this... who really gives a anymore.

It's like this after all the bickering back 'n forth.



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« Reply #119 on: December 19, 2007, 09:20:30 PM »
(sigh)

St. Petersburg Times (thought you'd like a Russian Link)
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The attack came a month after the U.S. promised to share intelligence with Turkey to help combat the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK and Turkey’s military chief, Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, said U.S. intelligence was used Sunday.

“America gave intelligence,” Kanal D television quoted Buyukanit as saying. “But more importantly, America last night opened (the Iraqi) airspace to us. By opening the airspace, America gave its approval to this operation.”

In Washington, a Pentagon official said that the U.S. military has been sharing intelligence with the Turks, but that he did not know exactly what information was given to aid with the airstrikes or when it might have been given.

Another defense official said the U.S. had made sure Turkey would have clear use of the skies to enable the strikes.

They both spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record.

Washington Post Article (lots of good info here)

If you can't "see" that the Turkish attack "approved" the strike yet can't "officially" approve it (for obvious political reasons) then I can't help do anything further but heave a sight for your lack of insight and understanding on "how stuff works" in the world.
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