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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2007, 11:31:35 AM »
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He was probably only talking from the financial standpoint ~ since this particular cat attacked in the past & will now be the reason the zoo will be paying out some heavy cash to the families of those killed/injured.


If the zoo cannot be run better than this, then yes, it should be closed.

Last year the very same Tiger attacked a female zoo employee that was feeding the Tiger.   Instead of biting on the meat the lady was placing in the cage, the Tiger instead bit off much of the flesh  from one of her forearms.  She survived, but is now partially disabled.   The Zoo received a big fine over that incident.

The San Francisco zoo also has Polar Bears.   What will happen if one of them gets free and runs wild among the guests??

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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2007, 11:35:34 AM »
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The fact that tigers are roaming the streets of San Francisco is CLEAR evidence that the liberal outrages of that city have reached a breaking point.  

Case in point, there are now infinitely more tiger attacks in San Francisco than in moral cities like Provo, UT, Arlington, TX, and Oklahoma City, OK.  

Somebody's calling with a message, folks.  Who's going to be brave enough to pick up the phone?


On the whole, I that city is full of/run by lib wierdos.  But that doesn't really have anything to do with the running of their zoo.  I'm trying to figure out if you're serious in your post, or if you're being sarcastic & waiting for someone to pounce on that.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 11:41:11 AM »
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If the zoo cannot be run better than this, then yes, it should be closed.

Last year the very same Tiger attacked a female zoo employee that was feeding the Tiger.   Instead of biting on the meat the lady was placing in the cage, the Tiger instead bit off much of the flesh  from one of her forearms.  She survived, but is now partially disabled.   The Zoo received a big fine over that incident.

The San Francisco zoo also has Polar Bears.   What will happen if one of them gets free and runs wild among the guests??

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A change of management and stepping up of safety procedures could help that as well as closure would.  

I don't mean to be callus, but when you put wild animals out for display, attacks are bound to happen ~ just a matter of when & to whom.
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 01:37:37 PM »
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I don't mean to be callus, but when you put wild animals out for display, attacks are bound to happen ~ just a matter of when & to whom.


The latest report from the San Francisco Police Department now indicates that at least one of these young men apparently did all they could to provoke and taunt the Tiger.  With a 15 ft wide moat, and a 20 ft high wall, though, no one thought that such a large Tiger could jump that high.

But the young men apparently aggravated the animal so much, that it somehow found the strength to get out.  One report says that one of them provoked the animal, and then was attacked.   Apparently he was the one who died.  The other two, who managed to survive, tried to come to the aid of their friend, and were then attacked themselves.   But this extra detail is all an unconfirmed report that was called in to a local radio station.   The only thing that is official from the police is that they say that they do believe that the animal was provoked in the incident.

The 3 men involved are 19, 20, and 23 years old, according to the latest reports I've read.  Perhaps the Zoo should require that no one under 25 be admitted in the future.   Most researchers now believe that the human brain is not fully developed until age 25.   And that younger people are thus inherently prone to doing stupid and dangerous things.

If it turns out that the animals were indeed provoked, then I doubt they will have any case to sue the Zoo.  What an incredibly stupid thing to do: to make a 350 lb animal with huge sharp teeth and claws angry at you.

Here is this news report from the Fox TV station in the San Francisco Bay Area:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318365,00.html

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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2007, 02:58:23 PM »
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The best thing for the city of San Francisco to do at this point is to close down the Zoo, and sell the land to real estate developers.

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I disagree.  Zoos, however controversial they may be, are often the only way most people will ever get a chance to see many beautiful and endangered species.  This amounts to an increase in awareness of nature and how fragile certain species really are.  I think the benefits to the world grossly outweigh the negatives to caging up wild animals.  The zoo habitats keep getting better and better (in general) as well.

Think about it this way - why would someone who has never seen a bengal tiger really care if it goes extinct?  Most city dwellers I know wouldn't care less about nature if they hadn't been presented with an up-close, personal experience like meeting a tiger face-to-fence-to-face.  The city dwellers I know who have never been to a zoo are almost universally self absorbed, caring about little except how much they can squeeze out of the govt after the next election.

Zoos (and wild animal parks and even sea world) are important educational resources.  We shouldn't close them because of single incidents like this, and we definately shouldn't close them, to the detriment of entire species, because we feel sorry for the animals in the cage.  If you feel sorry for the caged critter, donate some money to the zoo so they can upgrade the zoo habitat.  But don't demand they close the zoo, because that helps one creature and harms our society's awareness of entire ecosystems.
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2007, 03:04:09 PM »
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The latest report from the San Francisco Police Department now indicates that at least one of these young men apparently did all they could to provoke and taunt the Tiger.  With a 15 ft wide moat, and a 20 ft high wall, though, no one thought that such a large Tiger could jump that high.


If that's true, then they deserved what they got.  But still, the zoo had an obligation to keep the animals in their cages (habitats, whatever) so I would still expect the zoo to be held liable, even if the jury doesn't have much sympathy for the "victims".

If it's not true, then the news agencies who ran the story about this alleged behavior ought to be included in the lawsuit...  It's not something that ought to be casually reported as "news" and the news stations need to be held accountable if they report ralse rumors about people as the truth.
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2007, 03:09:03 PM »
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The latest report from the San Francisco Police Department now indicates that at least one of these young men apparently did all they could to provoke and taunt the Tiger.  With a 15 ft wide moat, and a 20 ft high wall, though, no one thought that such a large Tiger could jump that high.

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I heard about this guy who broke into a lion's den at the zoo
and got mauled
and people were talking about how there should have been better defences put up to prevent people getting into the cage
a friend of mine suggested setting up some kind of deterrent
for example, putting some sort of fierce animal in the cage, which would attack anybody who climbed in
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2007, 03:10:29 PM »
With less than 5000 tigers in the wild, each and every captive tiger is extremely valuable.  If theres ever a hope of keeping the tiger population from inbreeding (and causing birth defects and retardation), each and every tiger needs to be protected and preserved.

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2007, 03:20:46 PM »
I took this pic at the Boise Zoo a couple weeks ago:


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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2007, 03:56:22 PM »
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I took this pic at the Boise Zoo a couple weeks ago:


Extraordinarily beautiful photograph and animals, Midnight.

My compliments to you on your photography.

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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2007, 04:00:42 PM »
They still have that scraggely lookin elk?  Last time I went to that zoo in 94 they had about the skinniest, raggedest lookin elk I ever saw... In Idaho of all places...

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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2007, 04:36:45 PM »
-----------------------WARNING---------------------------
people taunting the tiger may be killed and eaten.

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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2007, 05:27:47 PM »
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They still have that scraggely lookin elk?  Last time I went to that zoo in 94 they had about the skinniest, raggedest lookin elk I ever saw... In Idaho of all places...


LOL.. all the good ones are on someones wall.

I didn't see an elk.

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2007, 08:10:32 AM »
I have now come to the conclusion that the press is totally useless in giving any accurate information at this point in time.   Every time I read a new report, the ages of the victims change!!  How could there be so much confusion going on?

It has now been determined that the kid who died was only 17 years old.   That appears to be accurate, despite the fact that so many other ages had previously been quoted for him.

We will just have to wait for the police to do their investigation, and try to figure out what happened.   What they do know, though, is that the Tiger did not get out via the door to the exhibit.   The Tigress somehow found the strength to overcome obstacles that experts had thought to be impossible for any Tiger to defeat.


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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2007, 09:26:27 AM »
Tigers have known for years that they could easily escape our puny enclosures. They've just been biding their time waiting for the signal to start the revolution. When this tiger's actions compromised the mission, she was quickly eradicated by the underground resistance.

BTW, the mainstream media is on their payroll, so don't expect any reliable information.
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