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« Reply #75 on: January 18, 2008, 07:01:44 PM »
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But the specifications for building the exhibit aren't mandatory and are just recommendations.  The exhibit in the SF Zoo was four feet lower than the recommended minimum for the wall enclosure.  That's a major problem, it shouldn't be a recommendation but a requirement.


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Had they not pelted the friggin Tiger to begin with, it is highly unlikely the friggin Tiger would have jumped out.  Those POS punks got what they deserved.  Too bad the Tiger didn't kill them all.
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« Reply #76 on: January 18, 2008, 09:59:55 PM »
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OF COURSE!  I hadn't realized that the tiger, the zoo AND the news were ALL biased against people of mid-eastern descent...  hardly worth the bytes to respond to that.


Bengal Tigers prefer Hindu and Muslim.  

Siberians are partial to Chinese / Mongolian fare.
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« Reply #77 on: January 18, 2008, 10:10:22 PM »
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Bengal Tigers prefer Hindu and Muslim.  

Siberians are partial to Chinese / Mongolian fare.


...and White Tigers like homosexuals.
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« Reply #78 on: January 18, 2008, 10:11:20 PM »
So why wasn't it a white tiger in the SF zoo?
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« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2008, 12:08:33 AM »
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Had they not pelted the friggin Tiger to begin with, it is highly unlikely the friggin Tiger would have jumped out.  Those POS punks got what they deserved.  Too bad the Tiger didn't kill them all.


Bodhi.

It really does not matter what kind of faces they made at the tiger, its kinda the responsibility of the zoo to keep the animals contained.

I dont care if you pump the cat full of meth. you have to build the enclosure in a way that keeps him in. :)

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« Reply #80 on: January 19, 2008, 12:39:20 AM »
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Had they not pelted the friggin Tiger to begin with, it is highly unlikely the friggin Tiger would have jumped out.  Those POS punks got what they deserved.  Too bad the Tiger didn't kill them all.


I agree that those kids reaped what they sowed but had the recommended specifications had been a requirement instead, the tiger would still be alive.


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« Reply #81 on: January 19, 2008, 12:45:17 AM »
What do you think happens if you annoy a huge arse kitty? :furious

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« Reply #82 on: January 19, 2008, 10:51:05 AM »
bohdi..  I don't care if the tiger eats the right people... that is not the point.   the cage was wrong and it could have been one of yours that got eaten.

The cage was built in such a way that a tiger could get out and get to the people..  the tiger had to be killed because of it.   If my grand daughter had been killed because of it then the next person to die would be the one running the zoo.

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« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2008, 10:55:29 AM »
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bohdi..  I don't care if the tiger eats the right people... that is not the point.   the cage was wrong and it could have been one of yours that got eaten.

The cage was built in such a way that a tiger could get out and get to the people..  the tiger had to be killed because of it.   If my grand daughter had been killed because of it then the next person to die would be the one running the zoo.

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Lazs, How long had the Tiger been in there?  I disagree entirely, as it would not have stayed in the cage if it new it could get out.  My bet is that it is exactly like someone else already mentioned, one of the idiots was hanging his feet into the cage while pelting the Tiger with the sling shot.  Tiger becomes an unhappy kitty and jumps up and gets a hold of idiots legs.  Friends try to help him, unhappy kitty climbs up and out.  Dead idiot and unfortunately not dead group of idiots.

Blame the idiots, not the zoo.
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« Reply #84 on: January 19, 2008, 11:02:08 AM »
bohdi..  if your daughter had been standing next to the idiots and they got away but she got killed..  

You might think that cages that are capable of containing big cats were a good idea.

he never did before?  who cares?  he did then.. he might have next week if he had a toothache.    Blame doesn't save anyone..  solutions do.

If the cage would have been up to standard.. no one.. including the tiger.. would have died... it is just that simple... nothing else matters in the case.

kids will tease animals at zoos.. any zoo that thinks this is not a possiblilty is negligent.  

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« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2008, 11:14:56 AM »
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bohdi..  if your daughter had been standing next to the idiots and they got away but she got killed..  

You might think that cages that are capable of containing big cats were a good idea.

he never did before?  who cares?  he did then.. he might have next week if he had a toothache.    Blame doesn't save anyone..  solutions do.

If the cage would have been up to standard.. no one.. including the tiger.. would have died... it is just that simple... nothing else matters in the case.

kids will tease animals at zoos.. any zoo that thinks this is not a possiblilty is negligent.  

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Funny thing is there is no "escape proof" enclosure.  Ask a zoologist next time you are there.  I guess you never wondered why most zoos are surrounded by 30 foot high walls...it's a last line of enclosure.

Generally, if an animal wants out... it will get out.

Also, with most zoological gardens, purchase of admittance generally is the signed agreement that the visitor assumes some risk, though  that risk is generally assumed to be minor.
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« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2008, 11:28:42 AM »
that is probly as stupid a thing as I have heard you say and you have said some beaut's.

Of course none is escape proof but higher and better standards exist.   They were not in use.    

You can build a cage that is 20% effective in containing a tiger or one that is 99% effective.. neither is escape proof in the strictest sense but...

 which do you think shows the most intelligent design and the least liability if the tiger escapes?

Put a top on the cages that critters that leap are kept in.  Higher walls.. whatever.. make it so that the best tiger in the world on his best days can't simply jump over the damn thing.

After that.. don't let the tigers have blow torches or hacksaws and you should be ok.

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« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2008, 12:11:06 PM »
lazs, there is a difference between making faces and noises at an animal and pelting it with a sling shot.  My point that the Tiger stayed in the cage up until that point has a lot of merit.  

How exactly did the Tiger get out?  It seems that the facts are pointing to it having an aid in making the leap.  Was it the guys legs?  That Tiger had some help in getting out.

As for saying make the walls bigger.  Hell, why not form a government agency to help ensure all zoo enclosures are "safe".  You can guarantee a shut down of atleast half nationwide for some BS reason or other.

The bottom line issue here is this:  

That Tiger would not have been able to get out had it not been for some punk arse POS's that were hell bent on antagonizing a caged animal.
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« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2008, 12:15:59 PM »
no.. the bottom line is that if my grand daughter is at the zoo and some kid shoots a lion or tiger with a slingshot.. and he gets mad and jumps out and kills her..

then it matters not why the tiger got out but how.

I do not want to depend on the tigers good nature or mood to keep it from eating the customers.

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« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2008, 12:26:40 PM »
Lazs, the Tiger would not have gotten out without aid or support.  It seems one of the POS idiots' legs provided that aid or support.

Generally during the day, people are disuaged from climbing on cages and such.  

Either way, if you want to defend the idiots and condemn the zoo, have at it.  This is not worth continuing bud.
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