Author Topic: F4U-1C vs GV's (Read 2751 times)

Overlag · « **Reply #30 on:** December 31, 2007, 09:40:44 PM »

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Originally posted by zorstorer
CC that Overlag The first time I got a tiger with rockets alone I was quite amazed

The armor penetration values for the Pb1 (the rocket on the 190F8) will punch through ANY tank we have in game

But the one thing I have been trying to get out of HT (with little success) has been if AH uses strike angle in its calculations for the Pb1 (and other true HEAT rounds). Sometimes Ill get a kill on a tank (they blew up when the rockets hit) and I thought the rocket would have hit at a angle that would have defeated the round.

Something I hope HT replies to

im sure more than once ive seen my rockets bounce off, but, when they do hit, i love the big explosion lol

Slash27 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 31, 2007, 09:49:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Larry
Film of the B25H?

Film of a Yak 9T killing a Tiger.

Larry · « **Reply #32 on:** December 31, 2007, 09:50:33 PM »

WTF? huh, what, whos that?

ghi · « **Reply #33 on:** December 31, 2007, 10:04:56 PM »

IL2 eassy vaporize a Panzer,M4 or smoke a T34 in 1 pass , or trak a tiger with 2 long burst same trak,: fire the cannon only in turet from 45 degrees or higher angle

Bronk · « **Reply #34 on:** January 01, 2008, 12:33:43 AM »

For those interested on the b-25 pumpkin gun killing tanks.

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=213987&perpage=50&highlight=75mm&pagenumber=1

It is capable of 1 shot kills on tigers. Ask lusche.

lyric1 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 01, 2008, 07:19:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
I'd like to see film of this.
The 37 mm on the T is HE and not AP.

Don't film very much but I shall trust me it may be HE but it will kill tanks.

lyric1 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 01, 2008, 07:21:39 PM »

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Originally posted by trax1
The 40mm on the K4 are even better for that.

Never tried 109k4 on tanks will keep it in mind.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #37 on:** January 01, 2008, 07:30:51 PM »

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Originally posted by lyric1
Never tried 109k4 on tanks will keep it in mind.

The K4 doesn't have 40mm cannons as stated in his post and the German 30mm's will not kill a tank.

E25280 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2008, 07:41:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
I'd like to see film of this.
The 37 mm on the T is HE and not AP.

Posted in the "New Love" thread as well:

I didn't believe it until I saw / did it for myself. The first two links include kills of a panzer with the Yak's 37mm gun, followed immediately by me smacking the ground. This is in the DA, but I don't think the MA settings are any different. Note that unlike the 75mm from the B-25, this took multiple hits.

(BTW, it is OK to laugh at my awful gunnery, poor angle of attack and general sucky flying ability. I will just claim that it is because I never fly Yaks, and see if you buy it.

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First Pnzr Kill
Second Pnzr Kill

We started to try to the 37mm against a T-34. I didn't do any appreciable damage, but a few of the hit sprites looked promising. I can't tell if they are armor hits or track hits, you can judge for yourself. Unfortunately I didn't have any time to try multiple sorties.

Useless T-34 attack

My squaddies had film of their own. Rifle used a flat vs. rear attack and eventually got a kill as well. I've asked him to send me the film, and will post it when he does so.

These are the films from Soup. The first film corresponds to my second film above. The next two show Rifle's attacks. which were low angle shots vs. my high angle shots. I won't link Soup's T-34 film because all you can see is that I didn't scratch him, so there really isn't anything to see IMO.

Probably won't get Rifle's film until tomorrow.

Soup Film 1
Soup Film 2
Soup Film 3

splitatom · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2008, 09:08:06 PM »

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Originally posted by lyric1
A yak 9t from the rear on most tanks will get you a kill out right just use the 37mm only so your sure of where your hitting the tank.

are you kiding i have to hit them 2 to get them smokeing and then quite a few more to kill them and yes i hit them dead flat into the rear

splitatom · « **Reply #40 on:** January 01, 2008, 09:11:06 PM »

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Originally posted by trax1
The 40mm on the K4 are even better for that.

it is a 30 and 1 40mm doesnt do as much damage as 1 37

Bronk · « **Reply #41 on:** January 01, 2008, 09:19:40 PM »

HUH well done target. Didn't think it possible I stand corrected.

Thanks.

Slash27 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 01, 2008, 11:18:38 PM »

Thanks for the testing El Target. Any luck killing a Tiger with it?

lyric1 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2008, 07:05:44 AM »

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Originally posted by splitatom
are you kiding i have to hit them 2 to get them smokeing and then quite a few more to kill them and yes i hit them dead flat into the rear

Well yeah you have to hit them to get them smoking & then hit them some more to kill them. Never said it was a 1 shot deal.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2008, 07:23:09 AM »

Considering the very vast majority of tanks in WWII were killed NOT by gun or cannon fire but by ord.

Typically even under the best of circumstances the best gunfire could hope to do was disable the tanks engines or tracks
In the case of german tanks. Most werent destroyed by aircraft but disabled and abandonded by the crew because of their overcomplexity in design and inability (with the exception of the tracks) of the crews to repair them in the feild.

The ease in which they are killed outright by gun/cannon fire in game has reached a point nothing short of absurdity.
Killing tanks outright with gun/cannonfire should be the exception due more to blind luck for even the very best of pilots and not the rule.

On the otherhand. as someone pointed out.

Dropping a 1000 pound bomb next to even a Tiger should destroy it as the concussion from the blast would be more then enough to turn the crews brains to scrambled eggs.