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Offline JB88

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2008, 04:59:37 AM »
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Not directly. Folks with ADD are more likely to wig out that others, if they happen to suddenly stop taking their medication even more so. You do NOT want someone like that to be close to a firearm.
People with ADD also tend to have a resentment of authority. Now take one medication deprived sufferer of ADD, add one firearm and a sprinkling of police and you have instant insurance payout potential.


that's the dumbest thing that i have ever heard SD.

i have adult ADD.  

clear cut case. i have taken meds for it in the past.  it helped me go from being a highschool dropout to a grad student.  but it's not the only part that needs to be worked on.  

here is what i can tell you about people with ADD.  

they are usually very intelligent.
their brains process information very rapidly.
they have a difficult time staying on task because of the way that they process information.
they can combat their impulsiveness, but it takes alot of time and effort.  it wont happen overnight.
drugs help, but therapy (many forms and ways) can be useful to help train the mind to stay in the present.
patterns and habits must be established but they must come from within.

what rpm said was true.  for about 5 minutes.  lord knows i had my share of those wake ups.  but the real cure is internal.

add people can actually suffer from what is called "hyperfocus" or "hyperawareness" it's a form of perfectionist obsessing that occurs when the mind cannot make the body act on the amount of information that it is presenting itself.

adderall is helpful for people, but you have to be careful with it.  i tried it once and turned into a fruggin nut bag.  i had better luck with small doses of ritalin (which takes the edge off of an add person) than i did with adderall.  i don't like adderal.  not one bit.  it's an uber drug.  it's easilly abused.

there are other medications out there now that can be equally as effective but less destructive.  

trycyclic anti depressants worked well for me.  no, i wasn't depressed, but they stimulate the brain to hold on to dopamine in the receptors which aid in concentraition.

strattera is a non stimulant drug that has seen some great results.  she might ask about this.  i'd recommend that route first.

homeopathic therapy is very important as well.  what we take in is what helps to determine our output.  the body being a temple and all.

that said,

i fire guns just fine...even without medication.  and aside from average fighting skills, i am able to fly my cartoon plane without much difficulty.

as for authority.

screw you.  you aint the boss of me.



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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2008, 05:07:25 AM »
lol JB88 I too have ADD :) (I can agree with you about the process information quickly, we are exceptionally fast learners. Are you also one of those annoying folk who can do pretty much anything they decide to turn their hands to with an undeniable penchant for perfection?)
But that has not prevented me from getting my PPL (here in Oz).
I can speak from experience about the wigging out though, and I've seen first hand what happens when medication dependant ADD folks have suddenly dropped their medications. Thankfully I learned long ago how to manage it without meds, which is more than likely what allowed me to get my PPL as I'm pretty sure those meds and most antidepressants are disqualifiers for an medical.
Oh, and screw you too you authoritarian bastage! :lol
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2008, 05:16:22 AM »
btw, I forgot to add (npi) we are also narcissistic bastages to boot. ;)
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2008, 05:16:45 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2008, 05:19:07 AM »
yeah over the years I'm beginning to lean that way in some respects but my life experience tells me otherwise. I do however believe it has been grossly misdiagnosed for those who have a severe lack of discipline.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2008, 05:34:35 AM »
it has often been misdiagnosed.

but it is real i assure you.  very.

and it is hard.  

but then, everyone has a cross to bear.

i just can't remember where i left mine.

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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2008, 05:35:39 AM »
:rofl
Damn you mean that thing was a cross?
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2008, 05:59:29 AM »
Good info, JB88.  She started the med today and she texted to say its making her sleepy and groggy.  Since she cant take any caffeine with this med, she's hoping the fog lifts.

As for the med making you edgey....yikes.  Let's pray!

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2008, 06:08:24 AM »
thanks lepaul.

ritalin never made me feel that way.

i felt quite centered very quickly after taking it.

adderal is a different monkey altogether.

i was a wreck on that stuff and changed it immediately.

dunno what's gonna happen with her.  i hope it turns out well.

i am sure that she will be just fine.

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2008, 06:52:33 AM »
I can tell that you have never dealt with some one with the affliction. My son has it, and I spent 4 months sitting with him in class to keep him on track when he was in the first grade. The right drug used in moderation, is a world changing experience. My son went from climbing out the windows to being an achiever that finished school (HS) two years early. Absolutely life changing. As to the caffeine it is what we would do if we were caught without his meds on a trip, indeed it is not something you want to do in addition to the meds. Other than that make sure the medical pepole keep track of the reaction to each medication, each one has a different results, and adjusting / finding the right medication will make a world of difference.


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You know what? I kinda see A.D.D. as just a lame excuse. It doesn't really exist.

It was made-up by some Psych major to win a nobel prize, or make tons of dough off of Riddilin.

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ADD and ADHD are just an excuse for schools' to not have to actually do anything with a student that is struggling. The teachers' aren't held accountable for it anymore. Now all they do is write a prescription.
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2008, 08:17:50 AM »
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From personal experience: Chicks on meds are best lays, and worst GFs....

Made a rule long ago, never to date crazies.

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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2008, 08:50:55 AM »
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People with ADD diagnosis:
1. Can't get pilot certificate
2. Can't purchase a gun (H.R. 2640)
3. Will pay a large premium for life insurance

It's to be avoided.


Of course its impossible to "avoid" it if you have it. :rolleyes:  And love does not "avoid" someone because of a medical condition. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2008, 09:15:32 AM »
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Why #2 and #3?

Is ADD life threatening?


Because of the drugs prescribed aren't just casual vitamins.  They are practically Speed.


Anyone who has ever been on Ritalin or the other ADD drugs are automatically precluded from US Military service.





Anyway, I have been a camp counselor.  I have dealt with kids who really did need the drugs, and benefited from them.  Then again, I have dealt with kids who did need a strong backhand.

These kids have never heard the word "Punishment" from their parents.  Another foreign word is "NO."  And these kids were placed on Ritalin simply because their parents were rich and incompetent.
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2008, 09:34:50 AM »
Let me see if I can help you understand Ripsnort.  Because the diagnosis for ADD is so easy to get in our current culture and the consequences are so dire, caution is advised.  Teachers and school nurses are casually diagnosing kids as having ADD and, with a wave of the hand, stripping these kids of career choices and constitutional rights and more.

I'm willing to wager that 9/10ths of ADHD diagnoses are specious.  I'd want a second or third independent opinion before I'd buy it.
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2008, 09:44:43 AM »
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Let me see if I can help you understand Ripsnort.  Because the diagnosis for ADD is so easy to get in our current culture and the consequences are so dire, caution is advised.  Teachers and school nurses are casually diagnosing kids as having ADD and, with a wave of the hand, stripping these kids of career choices and constitutional rights and more.

I'm willing to wager that 9/10ths of ADHD diagnoses are specious.  I'd want a second or third independent opinion before I'd buy it.


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