Author Topic: Adult A.D.D. (Read 2471 times)

bustr · « **Reply #60 on:** January 19, 2008, 06:31:10 PM »

LePaul,

You live in Maine correct. How bad is this years winter? I used to live near Shokalin Siberia. Long over cast cold winters made people act nasty and loose focus back in those days. Not ADD.

You are describing my wife currently. But her problem is her age combined with a very stressfull job environment. I watched her change as the stress increased. So I've sent her to spend the weekend in Chicago with her sister to girl around. She is in her 50's so female harmones along with stress is a big issue now.

Have you tried sending your wife on a vacation for a long weekend by herself? Amazing what what that does for them. I remember up to 10 years ago with women it wasent ADD they tested for, but the unique aspect of hormonal human female biology and how they have extream harmone issues in response to stress and other environmental preassures compounded with age. ADD in her case seems too easy. As women age they have a tendancy to goiter problems combined with thier thyroid. Stress, caffiene, sugar, alcohol, all of our modern addictive fast food infflamitories exaserbate goiter in women. And exaserbait mood and harmone issues.

Have gotten second or third opinions? Asking question here sounds like you are not 100% convinced yourself.

AKIron · « **Reply #61 on:** January 19, 2008, 08:20:20 PM »

Humanity got where it is today, relatively speaking, without behavior altering drugs for kids. My vote has been and is we are better off without them. In the 80's my oldest son's school recommended behavior altering drugs. I said no. Never regretted it.

bustr · « **Reply #62 on:** January 19, 2008, 08:40:24 PM »

When I was 8 my mother noticed I wrote numbers backwards and spelled out of sequence. It impacted my school work. Mom sat down with me and figured out how I was seeing numbers and letters. Then she helped me memorize what number or letter I should write based on what I was first seeing or hearing. My last adult job 40 years later was for Bank of America 3rd level system support and analysis for IT as a AVP.

lazs2 · « **Reply #63 on:** January 20, 2008, 10:58:46 AM »

suave.. I admit that I have never seen anyone like you say you were.

I have all those traits to an extent tho. I would say that the reason that I have never seen anyone like you tho is because you are one in a million or worse.

I think eskimo said it best.. that all of us have those traits in some degree or another. I just think that the whole thing is a scam so far as what I have seen... I have seen kids that I would diagnose as "boy child" who were told to get that damn kid drugged up or don't come back to school.

they had less "symptoms" than I had.

I agree that I don't have it... I would say that if I don't have it then 99% of the poor kids they drug out don't have it either.

A horsesass boss I had said the he was a five time cancer survivor.. he had 5 little skin cancer dots removed from his skin.

It is that type of thing. I think that these kids would be 100 times better off never seeing a "doctor".

At least in my day they only took out the tonsils.

lazs

RumbleB · « **Reply #64 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:57:44 PM »

isnt adderall like amphetamine?

Dago · « **Reply #65 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:02:55 PM »

A lot of the kids they say have ADD today are just poorly disciplined kids who seem to think they don't have to do anything they don't want to do. They want to be entertained all the time because that is what their parents did. A good spanking has a miraculous effect on curing "ADD".

There are people I think have a disorder that fits the ADD diagnosis, but not all kids labeled ADD are effected.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #66 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:13:39 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by SD67
Not directly. Folks with ADD are more likely to wig out that others, if they happen to suddenly stop taking their medication even more so. You do NOT want someone like that to be close to a firearm.
People with ADD also tend to have a resentment of authority. Now take one medication deprived sufferer of ADD, add one firearm and a sprinkling of police and you have instant insurance payout potential.

You are a conspiracy theorist at best. Especially one who hasn't a clue about what he is trying to talk about.

Quote

Originally posted by FrodeMk3
You know what? I kinda see A.D.D. as just a lame excuse. It doesn't really exist.

It was made-up by some Psych major to win a nobel prize, or make tons of dough off of Riddilin.

Because I know plenty of folks, aged 50+, who might have had some trouble in school, but...public schools' then did not treat you with 'kid gloves' like they do today. If you did not do your homework, they did not say you needed medication, and had to be given less work...They kept you after school in detention, or made you go to study hall, or called your parents', and the dean would take his paddle to your ass. You don't see too many of the previous' generations wigging out, and running into school with an automatic rifle, killing they're classmates. They just sucked it up and did they're work.

ADD and ADHD are just an excuse for schools' to not have to actually do anything with a student that is struggling. The teachers' aren't held accountable for it anymore. Now all they do is write a prescription.

You are incorrect in your summarization/generalization as well.

This Community tends to make me sick to my stomach when drivel like this is used. Pontificating on an internet BBS either in terms of "shock value" or "I'm right", while attempting to belittle other's on a condition that is very real, is just sickening.

I'm literally sick to my stomach at reading your replies. Some of you should be penitent.

Suave · « **Reply #67 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:50:38 PM »

If you look at a few case studies of adults with AD/HD I think you'll find that I'm about par for the course.

Chairboy · « **Reply #68 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:00:17 PM »

The _real_ problem is things like the new law I cited above that says people like lots of veterans and folks with ADHD can't buy guns.

acfireguy26 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:26:53 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Chairboy
People with ADD diagnosis:
1. Can't get pilot certificate
2. Can't purchase a gun (H.R. 2640)
3. Will pay a large premium for life insurance

It's to be avoided.

People with ADD diagnosis:
1. Can't get pilot certificate-dont know
2. Can't purchase a gun (H.R. 2640)-wrong
3. Will pay a large premium for life insurance-dont know

Chairboy · « **Reply #70 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:36:12 PM »

acfireguy: Children with past diagnosis for ADHD, People diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, veterans dealing with PTSD and who seek psychiatric help, men and woman who are charged or suspected of domestic violence, and anyone currently under medication for psychiatric reasons what so ever are targets of HR 2640.

Just because something _seems_ wrong doesn't mean it really is. That's one of those tough lessons you learn when growing up.

Suave · « **Reply #71 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:34:08 PM »

Sorry to hijack the thread, I sort of went on a rant. It's a sensitive issue to me for obvious reasons.

Back on topic. A person doesn't just get AD/HD at 50. It's something she would've had all her life.

For those of you who think my account is unusually severe, bear in mind that I'm an AD/HD success story. I never commited suicide, never been an addict, never been homeless or an inmate.

I'm going to post a link to a video about a 12 y/o boy who has REAL AD/HD. He was originally misdiagnosed with depression. After a few weeks on anti-depressants he attempted suicide. Subsequently he was tested and found to have AD/HD. He was treated with appropriate medicine and his life became much happier, and more normal. I see a lot of paralels between him and me at 12.

At one point he makes a statement about wondering if he's going to have a job and pay taxes when he grows up, or if he will be homeless living behind a dumpster. For a 12 y/o that's pretty insightful, he's allready realizing that the challenges he's facing may prevent him from having a place in society at all. That struck a cord with me because I can remember having the same thoughts at his age.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/watch/
click on video 4 "Alex's story"

SPKmes · « **Reply #72 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:46:45 PM »

Man made drugs do nothing for people except profit others. This is as said before a name which has an umbrella effect and covers anything in the vicinity of it. My nephew was diagnosed ADHD got put on riddilan ( spelling?) and he was sick as, and did nothing for him, he went else where to people who give a sh#t and they have got him into councilling. These guys are brilliant, the change is huge, and as said before it is from inside that changes need to be made, outside it's the people around them who have to help with this also

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #73 on:** January 20, 2008, 05:13:02 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Masherbrum
You are a conspiracy theorist at best. Especially one who hasn't a clue about what he is trying to talk about.

You are incorrect in your summarization/generalization as well.

This Community tends to make me sick to my stomach when drivel like this is used. Pontificating on an internet BBS either in terms of "shock value" or "I'm right", while attempting to belittle other's on a condition that is very real, is just sickening.

I'm literally sick to my stomach at reading your replies. Some of you should be penitent.

As it is, I stand by my opinion; which is what I posted.

That said, with this thread origanally being about LePaul's girl, I only wish that the best can happen. I don't know anything about Adderall, But I'm sure that if her case is being controlled by a good doctor, then I pray everything turns' out all right for her, and him. LePaul.

I was not intentionally trying to use shock value to simply win an argument on this BBS. I feel strongly about it, because every day, people who don't have children of they're own try to tell me how to raise my own children. How I'm dangerously de-stabilizing because I let my children shoot firearms, or let them play violent video games, or encourage them in "aggressive" sports, such as football. Simply because one of my children, when he was 5 years' old, mentioned that I kept firearms' at home, I had to put up with a visit from the CPS, along with a Sheriff's deputy escort. I had to send all of my guns' to my fathers' house, because if I didn't, They were gonna come back with a warrant. The woman from the CPS thought that I was going to take this out on my children, so she was contemplating taking them to the Jamison center anyway. Fortunately my father, who is a retired Attorney, pointed out that without a warrant, they were perilously close to getting in trouble for being overly belligerent, with an accompanying loss of job. At this point they retreated, and I haven't seen them since. And of course, none of my children have taken one of my firearms and "went postal", Even though they keep trying to have my 2nd oldest diagnosed with ADD.

I am sorry for being one of the ones to help hijack this thread, But I don't feel I need to be penitent for a Mother****ing thing, in regards' to how I feel about this.

Sandman · « **Reply #74 on:** January 20, 2008, 05:18:10 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by SPKmes
Man made drugs do nothing for people except profit others.

Tom Cruise agrees with you.