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Offline sunfan1121

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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2008, 11:29:52 AM »
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2008, 11:35:11 AM »
that was wrong....

funny, but wrong....:huh


and yeah..allied only updates suck!

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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2008, 12:12:04 PM »
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Hrm... good point.

Allies:

B-24
T-34
P-47N
Redo old 47s
P-38J
Redo old P-38s
Redo old P-51s
F4U-1A
Redo old F4Us
Spit8
Spit16
Redo old spits
B-25C
B-25H
B-17G
P-39D
P-39Q
Redo LA5
Redo LA7
Sherman Firefly VC

Axis:
Ki-84
109G14
Redo 109s (F4, G6, K4 all lose options)
Redo 190s (skipped ta152 entirely, mess up ENY rating on A8/A5)


Wow, thanks for the list Krusty.  I was hoping the allied favoritism was only a recent thing since I joined but...apparently it's endemic.

As discussed before.  We have most of the top end, so from now on it's all about filling in the gaps.  Some great Italian, Japanese, and yes even German planes are still waiting for the spotlight.
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2008, 12:20:43 PM »
Damn you TK....I've been waiting for the 410 for awhile now.:(
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2008, 01:01:10 PM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
Hrm... good point.

Allies:

B-24
T-34
P-47N
Redo old 47s
P-38J
Redo old P-38s
Redo old P-51s
F4U-1A
Redo old F4Us
Spit8
Spit16
Redo old spits
B-25C
B-25H
B-17G
P-39D
P-39Q
Redo LA5
Redo LA7
Sherman Firefly VC

Axis:
Ki-84
109G14
Redo 109s (F4, G6, K4 all lose options)
Redo 190s (skipped ta152 entirely, mess up ENY rating on A8/A5)


Don't get me wrong the VVS planeset is really hurting and the P-39s will help in a major way, but there are other planesets hurting even more, and mostly they're axis.


You could point out that most of these' are mid-to-late war planes' as well, Krusty. There is an immense amount of ground to cover in the Early to Mid war set. Especially as we now have an arena dedicated to it.

I know HTC and crew are trying to throw us some new planes; I'm grateful for what we do get.

I know that they have other projects' in the fire at the same time (Combat Tour) and that they can't devote all of their time to new A/C or other additions' to the current AH.

I just think that the Current game, with the planeset (and GV set) filled in, would more that make up for the mothballing of CT. Give it some more choices' in gameplay, A fuller GV set, with EW, MW, and LW AFV's. Give the GV's a damage model (When they get tracked, show them losing a track.) Change the CV groups-Make them country specific( Some ports' spawn an Essex class Fleet carrier, some spawn a Shokaku, some a Graf Zeppelin...)

I've always seen AH as having a lot of potential. I just wish we could see more of it.

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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2008, 01:08:31 PM »
I'm rather happy that the last update (B-25s) and the next update (P-39s) both have early planes included. Keep down that route and we'll have the planeset holes filled in, in no time!

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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2008, 01:09:23 PM »
lmao :lol !

He got me :o .

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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2008, 01:22:06 PM »
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Keep down that route and we'll have the planeset holes filled in, in no time!


Albeit the allied holes...
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2008, 01:24:19 PM »
WTFBTGH? Where's mah tailgunnerz gondlas, dont see em???

Iz taht a 50mm gannon I see portuding in middle???

OMGOMGOMG!!!!

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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2008, 01:25:21 PM »
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I just think that the Current game, with the planeset (and GV set) filled in, would more that make up for the mothballing of CT. Give it some more choices' in gameplay, A fuller GV set, with EW, MW, and LW AFV's. Give the GV's a damage model (When they get tracked, show them losing a track.) Change the CV groups-Make them country specific( Some ports' spawn an Essex class Fleet carrier, some spawn a Shokaku, some a Graf Zeppelin...)
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Nah..  The MA just can't have any sort of real strat.  Gameplay maybe, but never any real strategy mechanics that don't get abused and consequently dumbed down for foolproofing from dive bombing formations & co.  
More planes and task group types, mobile and towed artillery, recon or pilot rescue (snoozer IMO but a good addition nonetheless), all those things will make the MA even more fun, but they won't be enough to keep gameplay quality from degrading.
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I've always seen AH as having a lot of potential. I just wish we could see more of it. [/B]

And CT is it, it has to happen.  It'll allow the MA to be what it's supposed to be, rather than try and compromise for all the different things different players want from AH.
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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2008, 01:26:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
Hrm... good point.

Allies:

B-24
T-34
P-47N
Redo old 47s
P-38J
Redo old P-38s
Redo old P-51s
F4U-1A
Redo old F4Us
Spit8
Spit16
Redo old spits
B-25C
B-25H
B-17G
P-39D
P-39Q
Redo LA5
Redo LA7
Sherman Firefly VC

Axis:
Ki-84
109G14
Redo 109s (F4, G6, K4 all lose options)
Redo 190s (skipped ta152 entirely, mess up ENY rating on A8/A5)

 


You forgot the A-26!!!!!!!   :cry :cry

And the PBY Catalina  :( :cry
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2008, 01:28:21 PM »
Can't believe I fell for this, nice one. I was getting ready to reskin my Bf-110 G2s..


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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2008, 01:33:03 PM »
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I know that they have other projects' in the fire at the same time (Combat Tour) and that they can't devote all of their time to new A/C or other additions' to the current AH.

 


Well the BF-110 should be in that line-up for CT....as well as the Stuka I guess..

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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2008, 02:11:07 PM »
Krusty, you forgot the P-38G, B-24J and Jeep.  Also the F4U-1C was not remodeled due to pending perk loadout system.  And if you are listing options taken away, the Spitfire Mk Vb was gutted performancewise and ammowise.
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2008, 02:12:24 PM »
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Nah..  The MA just can't have any sort of real strat.  Gameplay maybe, but never any real strategy mechanics that don't get abused and consequently dumbed down for foolproofing from dive bombing formations & co.  
More planes and task group types, mobile and towed artillery, recon or pilot rescue (snoozer IMO but a good addition nonetheless), all those things will make the MA even more fun, but they won't be enough to keep gameplay quality from degrading.
 
And CT is it, it has to happen.  It'll allow the MA to be what it's supposed to be, rather than try and compromise for all the different things different players want from AH.


I'll make only one counterpoint (because the way the community's split over this issue, I wholeheartedly agree with you) and that is this. If it happened to the MA, what is to stop it from happening with CT?

Either CT is going to fall pray to 'gaming the game', or It is going to have very few players. Which is what befell the AvA before the current setup. The AvA staff is cheering because they have as many as 60 players' in there at a time now. But instead of following a strictly historical match, they have given some leeway, and are letting the Allied and Axis CO's choose which aircraft they use, and are making them record what fields' are taken, etc. There are points' given for captures, giving a new aspect to the 'capture the flag' aspect of the game. But they did that by allowing choice. If you take the choices' out, which the MA's have, what's left over? My understanding of CT is that it has a role-playing aspect. Ok...We currently have that with many of the squads' in-game right now. How is CT gonna improve on that, if at all?

I'm sorry Moot. I just don't see CT as the Holy Grail everyone thinks' it's supposed to be.
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