DoJ on Heller...

[Bingolong]

Bingo, why didn't YOU post this part of the Wiki article?

It all comes back to the same thing. Cain used a rock on Abel. It's not the rock, it's the intent of the person using it.

 why didnt you. its your wiki article not mine. just put the link next time when you post. the bottom of the article is word for word your post above dont twist things around.... you are good at it though.

[Bingolong]

Obviously it's about a man and his gun. That's pretty much the same way anything gets to the SC. It's usually one individual against whatever.

The fact that they planned this case has nothing to do with the individual right aspect.

Every time you post you confirm that you really don't know what Heller v DC is about.

BS. planning just proves there intent wasn't to go against DC, but to get to the 2nd amendment question. the question that needs answering is the unorganized militia since we know what the organized militia is.

I would say that about you who has been wrong from the beginning. Still hanging on to that piece of straw. you were the one crying about the DC brief being wrong and that they fired the guy because he did a crappy job. It is amazing how many briefs fall in line. You just missed the underlying case. DC didn't change their brief. So before, the two question that the two parties submitted to the SC were parallel questions. SC in a very irregular move wrote their own question. Then briefs were submitted.

The militia is the "hinge" on the door<2nd>, connected to the house <constitution>... sorry! we will see which way she swings starting tomorrow. I hope it swings shut. When it does I going to go stand in line for my F-22, M-16, rocket launchers and Jdam's.



On another note there will be a simulcast of the proceedings and at the end of the day a transcript of the argument will be made available. I'm trying to find out what station on tv or radio :| any guesses? I'm sure we will hear tid bits through out the day, but I would like to hear it as it goes. I took the day off

[lazs2]

bingie.. I am not at all surprised that you will buy handguns and even hide them from the authorities if the ruling bans them..  this is not at all inconsistent with current liberal socialist thinking.. that of "the laws are for the little people"  including the politicians who are trying so hard to take away individual rights.

as for my reading skills?   Well.. I think that I understand what "the right of the people" means.   I understand what examples or reasons for a right are also.   That seems to escape you.

The second part of the amendment is the absolute.. the first is just a preamble.. one, although not the only, reason for the absolute right.

Also..  how do you define "well regulated" or... regulated well?   would that not mean little or no regulation at all in some cases?  say with the unorganized militia as an example?    Would not the removal of the right of the people by a militia "regulation"...  all people save a few.. be the most grievious example of poorly regulated?  the reverse of "well regulated".




       
     
       
     
       
     

[Toad]

Again you confirm that you haven't understood the case from the beginning and still don't Bingo.

I think it will come clear to you after the ruling ~ June.

[Bingolong]

No I picked it off right away and have had it right, your the one who missed Toad. You said the militia wasnt even part of the equation, one more thing your wrong about.
 

[Toad]

Keep proving you don't understand the case. I don't mind.

[Bodhi]

The militia is the "hinge" on the door<2nd>, connected to the house <constitution>... sorry! we will see which way she swings starting tomorrow. I hope it swings shut. When it does I going to go stand in line for my F-22, M-16, rocket launchers and Jdam's.

You can readily own an M-16 and / or rocket launcher now.  Just apply for the federal tax stamp and check to see if you pass the local infringements on your 2nd Amendment Rights.

As for the rest, you will not be able to own an Abrams or Jdam until they are deemed unclassified and surplus to the needs of our military. 

[Bingolong]

Keep proving you don't understand the case. I don't mind.

 

[Bingolong]

the oral argument is going to be on c-span

around 11:30 est on c-span

[lasersailor184]

Alan Gura is a diddlying flaming retard.  The conservative judges are trying to help him out as much as possible, but...



You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

[Charon]

Gura was working to keep it on message and not fall for where Bayer was heading. Machine Gun registry is for another day in court.

All in all, pretty encouraging. Kennedy SEEMS to be on board and even Ginsburg seemed more supportive than not. This could even be 7-2, or at least 6-3. Knock on wood.

Charon

[Toad]

Transcript:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/07-290.pdf

[wrag]

Some news organizations are putting this out.....

Surprised no one has posted these links yet............

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/51ca64b6-f51d-11dc-a21b-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080318/D8VG2PR00.html

Although the statements may be a little premature!

No actual ruling has occurred at this point IIRC.

[AKIron]

I thought I had read they weren't going to rule until summer.

[AKIron]

Transcript:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/07-290.pdf

Interesting read, thanks for the link.

Sounds like at least a couple of the justices are more concerned about protecting existing gun control laws than the 2nd amendment. I'm thinking their ruling will be very limited in scope. Perhaps only to the point of forcing DC to allow handguns in homes without adressing the broader issue of whether the 2nd is an individual or collective right. Hope I'm wrong.