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Offline Urchin

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« on: February 16, 2008, 08:10:31 AM »
What happened to it?

It is awful!  Gets ripped to shreds by F4U's now.  Feels about as manueverable as the 190A-8 once you get slow (almost like everything feels like it should, but the other plane can do it twice as well as yours).

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 09:32:21 AM »
Apparently the most recent patches (well the patch that introduced the new F4U's) re-engineered the drag model of the aircraft and essentially hindered the P-51's flaps useless above a notch in terms of turning anyway. It's turn rate is simply dreadful now and the P-47 can outturn it according to WideWing's tests.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 02:37:05 PM »
i agree.the mustang doest seem to have its honorable praze it should have.the mustang is suposed to be the great fighter over most of the planes in here,yet it does'nt turn quik,the other planes can ketchup to you with no problems and shoot you dwn.and the 50cals dont seem to take the other planes dwn all that quick ether.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 02:49:39 PM »
I think a guy like AKDG could help you out. He has three hundred and eight kills in the P-51D going into the third week. He's the PONY MASTER...



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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 02:55:01 PM »
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I think a guy like AKDG could help you out. He has three hundred and eight kills in the P-51D going into the third week. He's the PONY MASTER...

 

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You might want to ask SkatSR also. He too, is a great stick in a pony, If you want to talk about the A-8 however, Talk to me or Eagle about it.
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Re: the mustang
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 03:06:26 PM »
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i agree.the mustang doest seem to have its honorable praze it should have.the mustang is suposed to be the great fighter over most of the planes in here,yet it does'nt turn quik,the other planes can ketchup to you with no problems and shoot you dwn.and the 50cals dont seem to take the other planes dwn all that quick ether.




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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 03:25:19 PM »
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If you want to talk about the A-8 however, Talk to me...


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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 03:31:21 PM »
:lol  Kids say the darndest things...

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 03:42:43 PM »
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If you want to talk about the A-8 however, Talk to me or Eagle about it.




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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 04:13:16 PM »
Urchin, F4U's are no good comparison to anything. They are perhaps the most forgiving plane on the set and capable of ultra low speed handling with the flaps out.

The problem is that these days plane performance is measured with flaps fully out, as this became the norm.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 04:27:16 PM »
F4Us got uber-fied in the airflow update. It's not right. They had a lethal stall and in this game float like a bubble.

Don't stall fight a F4u, period.

Considering that, the P-51s are still competent killers. You can't turn fight, and you frankly never should have been able to. I'm not saying you can't turn, I'm just saying don't fall into the slowest-tightest-turner-wins mentality.

They turn pretty well, zoom, dive, etc. All those staples that you remember. But *every* plane flies a little differently now. The airflow code is much more refined, save for a few questionable things here and there.

P-51s excel in many areas. Turn radius isn't one.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 04:44:58 PM »
SkatSr, AKDG and AKNOT are all very good in the Pony rides...:aok
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 06:13:54 PM »
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SkatSr, AKDG and AKNOT are all very good in the Pony rides...:aok


They are good P-51 sticks, but Urchin would eat all three alive... Urchin is top tier in virtually anything.

He's not asking for help gents, he's pointing out that the P-51's FM isn't what it was several years ago. There was a time when you could dump flaps and out-fly a 109G-2.. Not anymore, not even close.

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Re: the mustang
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 06:17:35 PM »
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,the other planes can ketchup to you with no problems and shoot you dwn.and the 50cals dont seem to take the other planes dwn all that quick ether.



I've mustard up those same results in a 190.:aok

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 06:21:40 PM »
This thread made me smile on so many levels... :aok
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