Author Topic: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog  (Read 1281 times)

Offline RATTFINK

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Re: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2008, 11:15:58 AM »
Well that's f.u.b.a.r.
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Re: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2008, 11:23:41 AM »
Yes the Fighting 31 is Axis.

Remember a side preference is just that, indicating a preference on what side you would like to fly. It is not a guarantee for a side.
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Re: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2008, 11:26:54 AM »
So, the squads that couldn't maintain better control over their squad
numbers still get their choices?

Do what ye may.
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Re: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2008, 11:47:14 AM »
No I didn't say that.

An Admin CM has to look at creating the side forces. A side preference is just that, a squad saying I would prefer this side or that side.

As an admin CM this is how we usually decide:

  • Any squad requesting Axis gets Axis even if they have flown 3 or more frames in a row as axis. This is because the majority of squads always request Allies. In this event, with the correct up to date information for squads we have 40 squads flying, 3 requested axis.
  • Any squad that has flown 3 times for a side is automatically placed on the other side. Only exception is point number 1. This is why the VMF-251 The Buccaneers were placed on Axis. They previously flew Allies 3 times in a row.
  • Not always and it is not in the rules but any squad that flies two times in a row has a strong chance of being placed on the opposite of what they have flown two in a row. We usually do this to avoid point 2, which is actually a rule in FSO, no more than 3 in row (only point 1 being the exception .. there was a squad way back when in 2004 that flew just axis .. they liked it).
  • As for any squad, like yours who just flew once in a row couple factors come to play. First is just side balancing. Remember there were 37 squads requesting allied. Out of those 6 had flown 2 in a row and 1 3 in a row (who requested allies). So that leaves 30 squads who had 1 in a row requesting allies. So some people have to fly the other side. That was stated clearly in the rules for FSO .. you have to be willing to fly the other side, fly bombers, not the best planes available to your side, etc.
  • Last CMs do try to mix up the squads a bit so that all squads fly with each other instead of just one group of squads flying allies this frame and axis the next and so on. Basically creating a permanent team. Now in your case it did not happen since you flew Allies last frame and you are flying Axis this frame. But there are squads that are now flying Axis 2 times in a row not by request based on having to balance sides and also wanting to mix up the squads to fly with other squads.


This has also always been an aspect of the game.


No squad EVER in the history of FSO has been punished by CMs when there numbers are over or under by having that be a factor in side assignment for the next FSO.

If a squad is over or under usually a point penalty is applied against a side (if numbers are over). The CMs contact that and discuss the situation to find out what is going on. Finally in previous cases in the past if it is a pattern (plus us factors) and squad has been suspended from the event.


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Re: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2008, 11:57:25 AM »
First off, I was not quoting yourself.  I was merely stating my reasoning.

Personally, I think the squads that couldn't maintain better control over their squad numbers
should get the last choice as to what they get & where they go.  This sounds reasonable to me.

BUT, your thought process on how the CM's decide who goes where is reasonable as well & I will stand by any decisions your team makes.


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P.S. Take the "=1" out of your "List" code  :)
« Last Edit: March 09, 2008, 11:59:18 AM by RATTFINK »
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Re: Next FSO Up, 1000 miles of War, Ice, and fog
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2008, 12:07:22 PM »
Okay list=1 is out. :)
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