HONOR

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that is one thing i wish more players had here
there are some who have it, but very few...
  i dont understand why people complain so much.
for instance
  i was in a spit16(awesome plane) i had alt on a spit 8 i think it was an 8(he was NOT low and slow), i drop down on him and start to turn with him
i dont use my e advantage i turn with him,a few turns hes dead, he types over 200 "did ya have enough alt.." or something like that.
this was a long time player (we where in a squad together so i know hes been around awhile)and i was suprized thats what he said.
 i did not reply back to him, to me he showed no honor,
if i am in a fight and my nme killz me i <S> em, unless he picks me, or vulches me, or i am out numberd,

   i think when someone complains about what another else is flying, that shows no Honor
i have to say this game is great,and i am glad i found it.
  i just wish there was more honor.
so this i say a huge <<S>> to those who show Honor.
all the others will get nothing from me not even a check6.

[Latrobe]

Two days ago when I logged on for the "night time" fight (around 9pm here) the only fight going on was Knights vs Bishop, so I switch to Knights. Turns out the Knights are outnumbered 4-1, and every single Bish was at 10-20K BnZing and running away. I would see why they would do that if they were the ones outnumberdd 4-1, but why would everyone BnZ if they outnumber the enemy? Went back on the next night, again there's only one real fight going on Rooks vs Bish. I join in with the Rooks, and again we're outnumbered and again every Bish is BnZing from 10-20K! There was one guy who actually came down to fight, and I gave him a big <<S>>!!

Sometimes this game can be very..."dweeby" is what I guess you can call it, and other times you can fight the best fight ever.

[DaddyAck]

Since when is the legitimate tactic of BnZ dweebery?  I fly planes that lend themselves quite nicely to that tactic, not all aircraft are meant for turn fighting.  But I do agree with your point that more people need to give a <S> or perhaps just lose gracegully saying nothing rather than come back with some sort of derogitory remark to the pilot who just bested them. 

[Acidreign]

There is no repercussion for a lack of "honor" in this game, hence, all the dweebery that is frequently seen.

 Bout sums it up.

[SFCHONDO]

Even complaining about being picked is lame. Last i knew this was a TEAM game. Object is to kill the nme. i may grumble to myself that i got picked, HO'd, or whatever. but 3 sec. later i have forgotten about it. Most of the nancy boys in the game that cry foul are your long timers. Which is why the noobs do it. But that just my opinion.   

[Gulp]

It will never change.  1/2 the folks are after a "fair" fight (or even like starting w/ a disadvantage) and 1/2 fly with every advantage they can.  Actually, I would bet that the majority of players spend a bit of time on both sides of that fence.

Plenty of players have no problem picking, ganging, hoing, & alt monkeying while at the same time throwing a fit when anyone else uses the same advantages against them.

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its to funny,

i enjoy this game very much,
but some people make me wonder why?
 last night over TT i take out someone with a beautifull high canopy shot, almost HO but they had no shot, they died
so here he comes on and talks crap to me, via private message, and voice, saying "...only way i can kill em is to HO, im the worst stick, in game, bla, bla, bla..."

 i just LOL over 200 and did not say any thing back to him, squelched him,

i play this game to release stress and have fun, i try very hard to play with HONOR, and give credit where its due.
but players like this  make me wonder why? whats the point?
 

[Shuffler]

I was jumped by a P-47 last night while I was engaged with another con. No problem was watching him all the way in. Just turned with both him and the spit till the spit died. By then the jug was smoking and lost his engine. I thought about letting him go.. many times I would... except, he came in while I was engaged so I followed him a bit then gave him a short burst. He died. On another night I may have waved off. You never know lol..........

[dedalos]

its to funny,

i enjoy this game very much,
but some people make me wonder why?
 last night over TT i take out someone with a beautifull high canopy shot, almost HO but they had no shot, they died
so here he comes on and talks crap to me, via private message, and voice, saying "...only way i can kill em is to HO, im the worst stick, in game, bla, bla, bla..."

 i just LOL over 200 and did not say any thing back to him, squelched him,

i play this game to release stress and have fun, i try very hard to play with HONOR, and give credit where its due.
but players like this  make me wonder why? whats the point?
 

  people say it is only a game but what it does is it shows the true person on the other side.  No fear of anything since no one knows them so the real person comes out. 
I love it when stuff like that happens.  Most of the time these guys could not fly their way out of a wet paper bag so try apologizing and ask them for a few pointers in the DA.  After they die (5 seconds or so) apologize again and tell them you did not know they were AFK.  Most will log at that point and they never bother you again 

<S> Enzyte   

[Krusty]

Demanding honor in an online game is pointless. If you get it, as defined by your way of thinking, enjoy it. However, we're not talking honorable samurai, nor honorable crusading knights, nor honorable judges presiding.

Your definition of honorable doesn't match mine. I'm not going to say somebody fought with honor or without. I'm going to say somebody was lame or was good. Different connotations. Different moral implications.



P.S. I see a lot of what you describe, but I fly as knight, so I guess that's just normal of bish or rooks?

[Blammo]

Most people in the game don't like to "die".  Either because they think is unfair or they that you had to have cheated (because they are too good for you to have got them fairly), or whatever.  Channel 200, for some, is a way to vent and get it out of their system.  They send out a short "nice HO" or "had to gang bang me to kill me".  I don't think it as much about honor as it is about the nature of the beast.  The game engenders intense emotion and immerses people into it.  They get geared up.  Sometime they just suck it up and move on, other times they have to let out a few PSI of steam.

All that said, there is no cause for going on and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.  But I think that has less to do with honor and more about a total lack of manners.

Sorry you have had the negative experience.

[Guppy35]

All you can do is have fun the best you can.  Expecting it of anyone else in the game is just gonna give you headaches.  I figure the only way I really can impact on the game is by how I play and what I contribute.  If I get lucky and that makes a difference, it's all good.  I hope, but don't expect that other folks will all feel the same way I do.

And as long as I'm not really dying and I get a new plane every time, I can't lose...unless I quit having fun.  So far that's not happened

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people say it is only a game but what it does is it shows the true person on the other side.  No fear of anything since no one knows them so the real person comes out. 
I love it when stuff like that happens.  Most of the time these guys could not fly their way out of a wet paper bag so try apologizing and ask them for a few pointers in the DA.  After they die (5 seconds or so) apologize again and tell them you did not know they were AFK.  Most will log at that point and they never bother you again 

<S> Enzyte   

lol  thats great,
 and now i remember why i keep coming back, <S> Dedalos

[captain1ma]

come to the AVA then, its not AS bad as the MA. it still happens but its happening less lately. we encourage you to join the Allied side. its a ball. try it, You'll like it!!

[Carwash]

hon·or   –noun
1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions: a man of honor.  

There are very few actions in the game that are without honor.  One would be spying.  Killing your enemy by whatever means does not show a lack of honor.  Complaining on 200 or through PM that you were killed is without honor.  

The solutions are simple:

1.  If you don't want to loose because your opponent is in some late war uber ride, take out a late war uber ride.
2.  If you don't want to be picked, take off at a rear base and get some alt.
3.  If you don't want to be horded, work on your SA.

But don't cry about it when you get vulched, picked, horded, hoed or whatever.

About the BnZers:  I read a book by a P51 pilot (can't remember which one now) in which he stated that the first rule for fighter pilots was:  One pass, haul prettythang.  You see, in real life, pilots who got into turn fights tended not to make it back to base.  Not always, but it was a risky proposition.  A turn fight, even if you were the victor, left you low and slow, easy pickings for someone else.  I believe the same is true in AH.
If you want to turn fight, fine, go ahead.  Just don't cry when someone picks you in the MA.  If you want a pure fight go to the DA.