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Offline lasersailor184

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Laser, I know what you are saying though.

The Falklands was won and the Brits didn't start lobbing nukes on Argentina. You know what I mean? :)



Argentina still claims the Falklands as their own land.
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Offline SIG220

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Re: re:
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2008, 07:59:28 PM »
I don't see history being rewritten. The article was factual. Is it wrong to point out that the bombings were horrible or that many died?


The article refers to American war crimes, and that it was an act of "Terror".   Just read the text next to the photo.

Was the United States Air Force the original "terrorist" organization???

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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2008, 08:11:02 PM »
I'm really

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Offline midnight Target

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Re: American War Criminals
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2008, 08:15:17 PM »
You must be reading a different article.

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While critics in Japan and elsewhere decry such attacks as war crimes, others say the Tokyo assault took place against a backdrop of the increasing brutality of total war fueled by the militarism of the Axis powers.


hardly a scathing attack.

and the use of the word terror might be just the best way to describe the thoughts of the survivors while the entire city burned around them. Yep... terror is the right word. Can't think of a better one. Maybe in this case the word is used appropriately, like Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."


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Re: American War Criminals
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2008, 08:17:03 PM »
And Nuke, You're buying.


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I got news for you, we fire bombed japan so badly we only had a very* short limited list for citys to drop the nukes on, and we still did it.

And till this day the american people are still the only humans on this planet that are guilty of nuclear genocide.
Ah yes, the sins of this great nation.  :rock

Perhaps you should read of the Bataan Death March, treatment of Chinese civilians by the japs, treatment of Allied PoW's by the japs, treatment of Vietnamese by the japs, treatment of the citizens of Papau New Guine by the japs, etc.   Then tell me we were wrong for what we did.

The fire bombings and nuclear bombings resulted in one thing.  The elimination for the potential of over a million American casualties should we have had to invade their home islands.

I gotta say it, you diddlying revisionists make me sick.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2008, 08:22:28 PM »
Lasersailer - your point makes no sense. The Argies lost a war. Total war was not used. Whether they claim it makes no difference to anything.
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Offline Yeager

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Got to admit the Argentinians came to the table with a full set of balls for that fight.  Put up a fair scrap too if I recall.
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2008, 08:38:13 PM »
Anyone who reads, let alone quote, Common Dreams dot com, is an idjit. So brush it off.  Bleeding Heart Liberal Site hiding behind the intellectual disguise of "progressive" politics.

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Got to admit the Argentinians came to the table with a full set of balls for that fight.  Put up a fair scrap too if I recall.


They had balls, but really they got their arses handed to them pretty thoroughly. They did score a couple of exocet hits of Brit ships hits, if I recall.

The Brits came from the other side of the world with no land support and just cleaned their clocks. That's the Britain that I admire.


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They had balls, but really they got their arses handed to them pretty thoroughly. They did score a couple of exocet hits of Brit ships hits, if I recall.

The Brits came from the other side of the world with no land support and just cleaned their clocks. That's the Britain that I admire.




The worst damage done to the British ground forces were when those two waves of old American McDonnell Douglas A-4C Skyhawks hit those two landing ships full of British Army troops at Bluff Cove.   The Skyhawks were all carrying 1,000 lb bombs.

In order to make the long trip to the Falklands and back, the Skyhawks had to both carry external fuel tanks, and also refuel in the air as well.   Here is a photo of one Argentine SkyHawk filling up just before entering combat.   ( Note the 1,000 lb bomb )






Here is a photo of one of the wrecked landing ships, after it was abandoned:





In a strange twist of fate, 16% of the deaths suffered on the British ships ( a total of 14 men ), were Naval cooks.   And that is because two of the British ships suffered direct hits to their Galley.

Only 3 Falklands civilians died in the war.   All were women hit by friendly fire from the British forces.   No civilians were ever harmed by the invading Argentine Army.

Argentina only had 5 Exocet missiles that could be launched from planes at the start of the war.   The use of just those 5 missiles resulted in two sunk British ships.   If they would of had a decent supply of these missiles available, the war could have had a much different outcome.   France refused to sell any more of the missiles to Argentina, once the war broke out.

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No war in the history of the world and all time has ever been won without the use of Total War.

This again? *sigh* Some never learn. Once again I present: The Cold War (at which point LS will probably once again attempt to redefine "Total War"). You're young yet. :D

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Define total war.
 
As a counter point the independence of the USA was won without turning England into rubble


Shhhh ... he missed that part in 101. ;)

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Shhhh ... he missed that part in 101. ;)
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The Falklands was a closely run thing - the Argie pilots were gutsy as all hell, they scored plenty of hits but alot of their bombs didn't arm properly because of the low level attacks in San Carlos bay, and the bulk of thier forces were conscripts
If the Argies had hit or disabled HMS Hermes, or HMS Invincible who knows what would've happened


O/T it was the invasion by the Russians which forced the Japanese hand in 1945

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