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Offline wrag

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The Anti Home Schoolers???
« on: March 15, 2008, 03:53:54 AM »
This is interesting to me and SEEMS to ring TRUE!

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/liberal-progressive-mind-control/

And

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58965

If you can't get the current generation to vote the way you want pull a Hitler Youth?
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2008, 08:50:28 PM »
The ruling is real, but this one won't stand.

The home school community is filled with incredibly passionate people...they'd have to be to take on the task of educating their kids. Those passionate people will mobilize their networks, and considerable political pressure will be brought to bear. I suspect this ruling will have a very short half life.

Can't claim to be unbiased on this one -- we've home schooled both our kids straight through. Our oldest is in college on a President's Scholarship, with a career goal of being a Professor of Classical Languages and Ancient Greek/Roman History. (Her schedule freaks me out -- this year she's got upper level Latin, upper level Ancient Greek, Classical Mythology, Modern German, History of Middle East, and some core liberal arts courses.) My son's only a sophomore in HS, but is academically successful (as judged by national standardized tests) and is showing maturity far beyond his years.

My point is that home schooling absolutely CAN work, can be an alternative to traditional bureaucratized methods of instruction. When some use "home schooling" as a cover (whether it's to cover up the kids' social/emotional failings, to hide from negative contacts, to avoid detection of abuse or neglect) the problem isn't the home schooling, any more than cars are the cause of drunk driving accidents.

And just as there are those who think government shouldn't try to solve ANY problems, there are those (far more numerous) who think government should be the only solution for EVERY problem, even when the government solutions are failing by common consent. This judge is one.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2008, 09:30:38 PM »
The anti-home schoolers must be pointing out to this...

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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2008, 10:03:28 PM »
I've heard the pros and cons of homeschooling over the years.

My Dad has been in education for years.  He's seen kids enroll at his highschool that were homeschooled.  Some were brilliant, some were woefully way behind.  All had some serious problems adjusting to the social aspect of learning with others, etc.

One of my coworkers at my former job was one of those super-passionate about homeschooling guys.  He would preach how terrible the schools are, as if their rural school was some sort of Bronx one.  When my Dad came over to tour the datacenter and see what I do, this moron took it upon himself to preach to my Dad all about home terrible the schools are.  Mind you, my Dad has been in education for years, helping launch the evening adult education programs in many areas, plus serving as assistant principal for 15, and as an assistant superintendent.  So obviously, he's pretty passionate about the education system.  My Dad rolled his eyes a lot but listened to the chucklehead preach his tin-foil hat opinions.

What made this all so much more fun was when this guys kid tried to enroll in highschool, he was way, way behind.  My coworkers wife was supposed to be the "homeschooler" and more often than not, just brought the kids shopping with her everyday...because daycare cost too much.

While I think some homeschoolers are really thriving, sadly there are many that do not.  In my coworkers case, its just overprotective parents afraid to expose their kids to socializing and learning amongst others.

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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2008, 10:11:11 PM »
Home schooled kids do better than public school kids on average. I'm sure i can dig up stats and studies if anyone doubts it. No surprise that Kalifornia wants complete control over your kids minds.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2008, 10:27:21 PM »
Anti-home schoolers= teachers' unions--they could give a damn about the kids as long as they can be counted in a census and contribute to the $ per head for public school salaries
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2008, 10:29:14 PM »


Which takes us back to indoctrination...
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2008, 10:35:31 PM »
Anti-home schoolers= teachers' unions--they could give a damn about the kids as long as they can be counted in a census and contribute to the $ per head for public school salaries

IMHO perhaps you might want to look a little further into the matter.

It's not quite the way you seem to think, but perhaps it would be better if you looked for yourself.

It's not strictly the teachers unions.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2008, 10:45:55 PM »
Teacher's unions fight the very idea of home-schooling, vouchers, etc tooth and nail, and the Dem politicians who are beholden to them carry out their wishes--is there something bigger going on here?

http://www.heritage.org/research/education/ednotes92.cfm
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2008, 10:53:20 PM »
Seems like whether you are a teacher in a school setting or a parent teacher in a home setting, the results of the teaching is directly related to the time effort and seriousness that the teacher places into it.  Of course, I know that the kids also share a great responsibility in this.  But even when the children slack off, it's the teacher who makes a difference in pointing them back in the right direction.

p.s. later I'll go back & read the article. I know definitely that the amount of money given per attending child is always a consideration to any school.  But the value of that money vs. the education of the children is probably prioritized at different levels by each school or district.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2008, 02:38:53 AM »
I am not a fan of homeschooling. Those students do not have to adhere to the same standards as regular district students, but recieve awards and scholorships over those same students. I don't like parochial schools either. Every child is entitled, yes ENTITLED, to the best education available. I don't like vouchers, as they would be destructive to the educational system as a whole. It would turn it into a commercial operation instead of a social foundation.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2008, 04:02:06 AM »
Every child is entitled to the best schooling available and vouchers for private schools would go a long way.  public education has become nothing more than a leftist indoctrination machine.  Our kids cannot read, write, add or subtract but they can tell you everything that a white man has supposedly done wrong in the history of the world and tell you how owning a SUV makes you a destroyer of our planet...

Get the illegals out of the country first as their kids are wasting resources that should be used to educate our own - or send mexico the damned bill for all of their expenses - medical, education, etc etc...

I was fortunate enough to have 4 years of private school, my parents had to pay the same tax for the loser schools that they were not using PLUS make the sacrifice to send both my brother and myself to a school where we would actually be taught history, science, math and ENGLISH.  It is unfair that they had to foot the bill for something they deemed unusable.  Certainly a substantial tax credit or voucher should be allowed if someone chooses to get their kids out of the public education cesspool.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2008, 05:12:15 AM »
Laser said it best with the fewest words.  The State can't brainwash the children if the parents are teaching them.
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2008, 06:03:18 AM »
Yes, only the parents can brainwash. Does that make it better?
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Re: The Anti Home Schoolers???
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2008, 06:18:19 AM »
The State has been doing such a fine job, right?  The Teachers Union is nothing but a bunch of Socialist who's only goal is to make the next generation stupid so they'll be easier to control for the State.  Socialists do not want children that could be independent when they grow up.

P.S.  One thing they do teach the children well at public schools is how to spy on their parents for the State.
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