One suggestion: Sunday evening euopean event possible?

[flubby]

Hello gentlemen,

we the PARROTS are a squadron, wich formerly flew in another flightsim. There we had a lot of fun, flying regulary scenarios at sunday evening 21:00 central europe time. Beside from the fact, that we really love AH and we are very happy to change the flightsim, we strongly miss a regular weekend event for european players. I am convinced, that it would be a great improvement for AH and drag some more european players from other sims into AH.

We have a lot of experience in building scenarios and we would be very happy, if there are some volunteers, who would like to install a sunday event for european players. The PARROTS have more than 30 active players and we know a lot of other AH squadrons, who would like to have such an event.

We offer our support in planning and advertising an european time event if there are CM´s who like to host it.

Is there any chance to get it?

Regards

Flubby

[Husky01]

The CM team is currently working on a Sunday event, not sure what time they will run it though.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,225577.0.html

[flubby]

Thx for the reply.

It is great to hear, that you already working out an event at the weekend, but from my experience, the sunday evening is much more attractive, because on aturday, most people go out with friends of wife . Furthermore the eurpeans prefer flying in the evening and not after midnight .

Once again. We offer all possible help in advertising the event and creating some nice scenarios. We already have two CM´s in our squadron, who worked in the "other" flightsim very successul.

Regards

Flubby

[forHIM]

The CM team use to host a Sunday evening (European) time event, but it had low turnout to justify the CM time and resource commitment.  We know our friends and players in Europe need/want events that are time friendly to them, but we've struggled over the years to provide a quality event that drew players to it.  We will continue to explore options and try events.

We appreciate the PARROTS offer to help and to participate.

[Husky01]

Flubby I think you and your group may be interested in this.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231183.0.html

[flubby]

Yes Husky, but 8 pm means for me 2 am !
This is the main problem most european players have.

Cu

Flubby

[SOLAS]

it will be great when there is a possiblity to establish a second special event for europeans. actually the only special event i can join (from germany) is the thursday snapshot at 3PM EST. this is a very good time.

also it is (especially for me) very sad that the air-race events take place at a time i really cant join (10PM EST is 4AM german time)

yesterday i joined the snapshot at 9PM german time and it was a true pleasure to be there. with great wingman from finland:]

so i want to vote for a second time for europeans and when possible a second race event time for us from the old world ;]





 

[ROC]

Gentlemen, I would be more than happy to start up another Sunday event during the prime European time slot.

It can be done easily, duplicating the snapshot format.

The only problem is, we've done it, twice, and the attendance was frankly abysmal. 

We have a fantastic Snapshot team, led by Sasmox who is on the European time zone.  If there could be some kind of assurance that we wouldn't be talking to ourselves in the arena, I'd authorize another run at a Sunday Snapshot 3:00 PM Eastern in a heartbeat. 

But to go through it, again, as we have before and have about a dozen players show up, that just puts a pretty stiff workload on volunteer CM team members for little reward.  Our guys work of Pride.  You should see the moral on the FSO team, stunning team, stunning players, pulling 400+ regularly now.  People get discouraged when they draw 12 people into an event that takes some effort to pull off.  I'd hate to ask that of them...again.

So, if you guys are serious, I'll ask the Players to honestly put forth a group that Wants, but more importantly would Attend, a weekly event, and I can put the team together.  Remember, however, we ran CAP, which was not taking off, and we turned it into Close Escort, which was not performing, and we closed them both.  We moved the sunday event to prime time US, and it didn't catch hold, so we closed that as well.  I'll do it, but again, I'm going to need convincing, then I'll back it 100%.

[forHIM]

CAP was on saturdays and Close Escort was on Sunday.  Prior to the Close Escort we used to have a Sunday Squad Ops that was registered squads only, just like FSO, but the lack of committed squads hurt.  That's where close escort came in as a mix of squads and walk-ons.  Again we had some early mild successes, but the event quickly returned to a few players.

ROC,
Speaking/thinking out loud, could we schedule a once a month Sunday snapshot that is Euro time friendly and see how the turn out is over the course of a couple of months.  This could confirm the interest and participation level.  We'd need to see if Sasmox's team or someone else could host the event on an interim basis.

[ROC]

I've already spoken with SASMOX about this, several months ago.  As I said, I'd be more than happy to run something, but this time I really want more than a couple of guys saying it would be fun, this time I'd like to see it backed and supported before we make the effort.  Every prior one has been talked about, and tried.  The interest and participation level needs to be there up front.

Thanks for clarifying the Cap, and yes, your timeline is more accurate and reflects again why advance commitment is what I'd be looking for.

[DrDea]

  I  think you could count on some of the EST guys in my squad to get behind this.

[flubby]

Hello Roc,

thank you for your reply. So what can i say. Yes we are a bunch of guys, whou would like to participate such an event. Maybe this is not enough in your eyes, but this is the basic prerequisite .
I can guarantee that the PARROTS alone will get 10-15 players together in such an sunday evening event. Furthermore i again offer our help in advertising the event. Advertising is one of the most importants parts imho and we know how to do it . At least our member kangar, an experienced scenario designer, would like to volunteer either as CM or designer.
Feel free to ask for some more help. I will see what we can do.

Best regards

Flubby

[kanga]

Hello Roc, Hello ForHim,

I'm Kanga (well, Kangar in the game, one day I may figure out how to drop the r).  Sorry I haven't jumped in here sooner, I've had enough fun learning a new game and haven't yet got into the community forums here.

Onto scenarios.  I think the key problem is organising events from a US time zone to be played in a European Time zone. You (US based CMs) have to change your day around to attend and run events at odd hours and lets face it, you're volunteers. You shouldn't need to make extra special efforts to organise an event (I speak as one who knows how many hours can be consumed with research and setup in the first place) and I for one wouldn't expect you to.

I believe, along with flubby and some of the other parrots, that an event would be popular.  It would take time to grow for sure, but I think it will be lots of fun.  I'm willing to put some time asside to help create and run events. I couldn't do that alone though (at least not forever, though I have no problem being the first to start it off), I think it will need several European CM's in order to make it work.

Perhaps we can talk off forum about what commitment you (AH) need from a CM and whether between us we can make something happen. That way you wouldn't have to volunteer to odd hours for us Europhiles (at least once I've learnt the ropes).

Regards
Kanga
a.k.a. Steve

[forHIM]

Kanga,

ROC is head CM and he's the one to speak to about commitment, etc.  As stated, Sasmox who is the lead for the snapshot team is in Finland, I believe, and he has 2 or 3 other CMs on his team that are European based.  For a while we even had an Aussie on the team   We do try to adapt and make the special events available to multiple timezones.  That is one of the reasons the scenarios are typically ran on Saturday or Sunday afternoon US time so that we can also get European based players in them.

[ROC]

Maybe this is not enough in your eyes

Don't get the wrong idea, it's not about what is in my eyes   I have to tell someone they have to work an event, and all I want to do is make sure it's not a "here we go again", as we have done this before.


I've stated on each response that I would be more than happy to do this.  I have the staff, from time zones throughout the world.  We have an entire library of Years worth of FSO and Snapshot setups that can be ran with no design effort at all.  I can have a staff team up and running with very little effort, might even drag in a few of you guys, but again, I can do it, all I am asking is for this.  We can manage to run an FSO for 3 Fridays a month, most every player registers and commits to the time.  I am simply asking for a number that can be firm, so we don't go through this all over again "hoping" people show up.  That's all, it's not a slight or a slam against the time zone, it is not an inconvenience to be there, heck it is Noon my time and I'd probably attend.  That is not the issue.  The single, only, absolute issue is I cannot do this again for a maybe.

Bring a number of players that will do this, and I will make it happen.  That's all I'm asking.  Text is hard to get a point across.  There is nothing here other than Yes, I Will Do It.  Get me a roster of squads and friends who will support this, not might and gee we'd like to, and let's get it going.  I just do not want to Cancel another event due to best intentions but lack of attendance.

I think the key problem is organising events from a US time zone to be played in a European Time zone.

Good observation, and actually one of the early things I considered quite a while ago.  However, that idea died a quick death when the events were run with Euro CMs.  We do have a very strong presence with SASMOX and his group, Thursdays of all things have better turnouts than we were seeing on Sunday. So again, Yes, Yes and Yes, I'm all for it.  Per some of the above   Really guys, I'm behind you completely.  So let's do it.