I miss the good old days

[BiPoLaR]

See Rule #2

[Yknurd]

See Rule #4

[Hungry]

"If you really want to find it here more often than once in a blue moon, the arenas need to get smaller still"

Sorry dood....when I started playin AW, the arena limits were 32 at a time. So.......somehow complaining about 350 per arena really doesn't seem to have much impact.

NoBaddy

Not complaining at all I fly Orange, once in awhile the cap is hit, the comment was a reply to making the arenas smaller to build more community if thats what you meant, sorry my assumtion, AW FR when I was playing had its peaks but I dont think it averaged more than 50 to 75. 

Based on your comment in your opinion how small do you think they should be?  AW had multiple arenas and it seemed to me people had their favorite.  My original comment was more towards the same group of guys gravitating to an arena on a regular basis thereby having more control as a smaller group of regulars to control the behaivor.  The cap comment was made in that because this community is so much larger the cap would make it more difficult for the regulars to fly together.

BiPolar

You somewhat missed the point "AW's gone get over it"  AW in this conversation is like syaing we built a 63 chevy how can we make it better in 64.

[moot]

That's 'cause you're a dork, dork.


I wonder how many here who are waxing philosophically about the "old days" even fly in the original Beta map?

I still remember when it was the ONLY map.  NDIsles came and we that it was the cat's butt.

Hehe.. I remeber using the campus labs' T1 lines to download patches to play as soon as I got home.  PT boats! LOL

[Yossarian]

Everyone duck...flying purses!

 

Brilliant summary of this entire thread 

EDIT: and what is all this "honour" BS anyway?  This "battlefield honour" you're all harping on about is long dead, and this is a game, so it's a bit irrelevant in this context anyway.

IMO you can only have 'honour' in how you handle yourself.  For example, sticking to your promises.  I try to, and am usually successful.

However, in deciding to do your best to be 'honourable', you accept the fact that the majority of people probably won't be 'honourable', that they will stab you in the back (in this case HO you), and lie (probably the equivalent of accusing someone of cheating in this game).  If you expect anything more out of the average person, my advice would be to stop kidding yourself.

Whilst I'm ranting, I'll move on to this "I've-made-friends-online-even-though-I've-never-met-them-and-probably-never-will-meet-them" attitude.  (If you have actually met the people in this game/forum that you think are your friends, please stop reading here - I don't mean this to apply to you.)
For all you know, your "friend" that says he/she is married could actually be a fat unmarried psychopath.  You just cannot know.  FYI, I'm 16, however for all you know I could be a 40-year old paedophile trying to pose as a teen.

This isn't to say they can't be a friend if you've never met them - my main point is that they can't be a friend in the usual sense of the word.

So, I think this 'honour' BS about the game is rather ridiculous.  Personally, in Aces High, if I see a friendly player fighting someone, I may go over to the fight, and stay above it, and ask if the person needs help.  I won't join in to that particular fight unless they ask for help, or it becomes clear that the person on my team is losing.
However, aside from that, if you're an enemy, I'll do my best to blow you out of the sky in any way necessary.  Since this is a computer game, with very little/no impact on real life, I will assume that all enemies will show me no honour/mercy, and therefore I work from there, with very few exceptions.

*runs to a Spitfire XVI hidden behind a recently constructed brick wall, revs up the engine and takes off to escape barrage of incoming flames*

Yossarian

EDIT #2:  I'd like to say that I do respect certain people who consistently make constructive posts, and are usually/always considerate in the game and on the BBS.

[Murdr]

The cap comment was made in that because this community is so much larger the cap would make it more difficult for the regulars to fly together.

At it's peak on AOL there were well over 100,000 players in the database, and between 1,100 and 1,300 players on during a given night.  In AW though, for most of it's span the arena's were more unique.  You did not have the choice of an arena with the full plane set, so one had to pick the type of arena with the planeset they liked the most, which resulted in each respective arena having it's own sub community.

By the way, last week I was run down by a faster plane, and ended up fighting and winning a 3 vs 1.  As I finished off the 3rd, another enemy had found me on dar and headed my way.  When they caught me, I set up a break away reversal, and typed "low fuel " while extending.  The opponent, who had tangled with me several times the previous week PM'd me and let me try to RTB saying "you owe me some films ".  Imagine that?  In AH
 

[Murdr]

On the smack talk side discussion...I've always been critical when I've seen examples of 'over the top', but it has nothing to do with 'class' or even disliking someone.  Open channel is a reality show that most watch.  Putting on a bad example on open channel just invites newer players to act the same way. 

If you don't believe me, just look at the recent examples of individuals that are barely capible of shooting down an AFK plane, talking like they know what AH is all about just because they can capture fields with overwhelming forces.

[NoBaddy]

NoBaddy

Not complaining at all I fly Orange, once in awhile the cap is hit, the comment was a reply to making the arenas smaller to build more community if thats what you meant, sorry my assumtion, AW FR when I was playing had its peaks but I dont think it averaged more than 50 to 75. 

Based on your comment in your opinion how small do you think they should be?  AW had multiple arenas and it seemed to me people had their favorite.  My original comment was more towards the same group of guys gravitating to an arena on a regular basis thereby having more control as a smaller group of regulars to control the behaivor.  The cap comment was made in that because this community is so much larger the cap would make it more difficult for the regulars to fly together.

IMO, there really is no going back.

I do like the point that Murdr brings up. The nice thing about the multiple arenas on AOHell was the fact that there was something unique about each. Relaxed/Full...Pac/Euro. Who knows...AH might benefit from such a change.

Of course, there is one other option that could be very beneficial to the "community" of the arena....raise the damned price. It would keep the riff raff out. 

[crockett]

The banter on 200 doesn't bug me much.. I give a lil hell on there myself, but it's all in fun. Nothing like trash talking the other guy, specially if he's a dweeb.

On the other hand, actual fights in this game leave a lot to be desired. You can almost never get a good 1 on 1 with out a Niki ho tard, a spit dweeb or a thinks he's the god of ACM because his A6M will out turn anything, zeek retard coming in and picking you. You basically have 2 choices in this game and neither of them are that good assuming you want to see some action.

1) you can head into the furball, and either gang or be ganged. No real ACM skill needed, just wep on and look for easy pickings.. repeat until someone picks you or you run out of ammo.

2) go to the enemy base and sit just above their heads and pick them as they climb up.

You dam sure can't go find a good 1 on 1 at co alt without having 20 other cons from either his team or yours jumping in for the easy kill. If you do get lucky and there are no others to jump in, 9 times out of 10 your opponent will dive to the deck and run like a school girl soon as he loses an advantage.

The simple truth is, there really isn't much respect for the fight anymore..

[Widewing]

By the way, last week I was run down by a faster plane, and ended up fighting and winning a 3 vs 1.  As I finished off the 3rd, another enemy had found me on dar and headed my way.  When they caught me, I set up a break away reversal, and typed "low fuel " while extending.  The opponent, who had tangled with me several times the previous week PM'd me and let me try to RTB saying "you owe me some films ".  Imagine that?  In AH
 

Had a similar situation last night in an La-5FN. I had to fight my way out of 7 on 2, which quickly became a 6 on 1 when a Knit and Rook collided. I got four of them, but let a damaged P-51 limp home (I had an oil leak anyway and was low on gas and ammo). Number 6 was dispatched by another Rook who saw the fight and came to my assistance. I suppose that I wasn't being generous as much as thinking tactically. Another mob was nearby and I needed to get a new fighter quickly. 

My regards,

Widewing

[FT_Animal]

blah blah...dude you really wasted alot of time writing this junk...i read no more than 10 words...

I have to admit, of all the people I've met so far, you and SkyRock impress me the least. Dweebles. No Clue, and I have this feeling you're never going to get one. You just can't fix stupid.

[evenhaim]

Drdea all the good is still here just not as prominent, a few weeks back batfinkv and i were in the final 2 of a koth round, Bat had no alt nor e and was appearantly low on fuel, rather than bieng an idiot, i killed me e and alt and we duked it out on the deck until i died. Several times i have had an awsome fight in the ma that will last for 10+mins constantly changing positions, the moment i see my opponent crippled or "out" of the fight i always <S> and let em go.  I even remember someone(havent thhe vaugest clue who) escorting me to my base after an outstanding fight. Just gotta keep your eyes open.

Cheers,
freez

[Oleg]

FYI, I'm 16, however for all you know I could be a 40-year old paedophile trying to pose as a teen.

You looks too clever for 16 I would rather believe you are 40 year old pado... peada... argh, nevermind.

[Wingnutt]

Remember in AW how you would get engaged with someone and they would start smoking and you gave a <S> and let them go home?Alotta the quake types playing wouldnt understand that.It wasnt about the kill.It was all about the fight in the old days.The days of Air Warrior.Now I find myself wondering if this guy in front of me is gonna give me a face shot.Should I dive down up both giving him a snapshot at me?Should I give him a shot in the face myself?
  I had several if not many fights with Nomde.Him his 47 me my 109.All straight up legit fights and we more often than not both ended up smoking and calling it a fight so we could rtb.Hell he called off 2 guys from his country one time so I could rtb.That kinda honor has gone.Now its smack talking tards that belittle people nightly on 200 thumping their chests and calling everyone else dweebs."Go to the DA now your your a wuss" I see this so often it makes me wanna puke.The prevailing attitudes in AH has damaged the game.I was gone for around a year and decided to come back.Man this place has changed in a year.My % of giving a HO has tripled due to the fact thats all I get anymore.I cant wait till CT comes out.I'll live there.
 I miss my old game.I wish there was a way to make it come back.

I wasnt around for the "goodl ole days"  but I knida know the feeling...

I was RTB with half a wing, and a oil leak. countless other damage... on the deck in a A8..with 2 kills to land, fighting VERY hard only really having the torque of the engine and rudder to steer with..

traveled almost an entire sector this way..., base within sight...  I notice a friendly batteling it out with a spit9 just at the limits of icon range.. about 4 k alt.



sure enough, the spit spots me, dives away from the friendly (who chases) and comes blazing in and picks me off...

I think (or would like to think) the firendly got him after, as he was gaining on him..

Im not big on imposing MY personal ethics on anyone..  but I cant help but say its pretty piss poor to do something like that..

[Yossarian]

You looks too clever for 16 I would rather believe you are 40 year old pado... peada... argh, nevermind.

Does that mean I should become a squeeker?