Car totalled by an uninsured illegal immigrant with no license

[LTARGlok]

So they should be given licenses because they'll be driving anyway? What sort of spineless approach to a problem is that? What's the next step? Give them citizenship because they'll be crossing the border illegally no matter what we do?

Once you get a driver's license, you really don't need to get citizenship.

With a driver's license you can drive a car, and thus be able to easily go to work.   With it and your credentials from your Mexican consulate, you can then obtain a bank account and credit cards.   Heck, my bank had to hire a Spanish speaking clerk, there are so many here where I live.   I asked them if people had to be citizen to get a bank account, and they said no.   They only need to have valid ID, and the driver's license gives them that requirement.

About the only thing you cannot do is vote.   But that is why the Democrats want citizenship for all that are here.   They see this as a great opportunity to register huge numbers of new Democrats.   

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[Airhead]

So they should be given licenses because they'll be driving anyway? What sort of spineless approach to a problem is that? What's the next step? Give them citizenship because they'll be crossing the border illegally no matter what we do?

It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.

Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.

[LTARGlok]

Indy,

When you get a chance I'd get a copy of the collision report for your own records, even if you have to pay for it at the PD. If you were not advised at the scene the report should have the owner info on the car that hit you. Perhaps it wasn't the driver that owns it.

Secondly do not sign any release, even to your insurance company until you are sure your medical situation is over and done with. Once the chior of fat ladies sing then consider it.

Many illegals buy cheap cars for cash from private parties, however.   And then they simply fail to register them.

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[0Mav0]

Thank God your Ok. That looked pretty nasty. This is the freaking problem with illegals. I dont mind Immigrants at all, but come in the proper way?

[Neubob]

It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.

Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.

My approach is to take these people and to put them into a perpetual cycle of criminality. The cycle will only end with deportation, long term incarceration and destitution for all their dependents. Your approach is to give in and go with the flow. Like I said, what's the next step? Citizenship upon entry? How about pre-emptive welfare just in case the manual labor they do doesn't cover the expenses stemming from their mold-like reproductive tendencies? Clearly we should all be speaking spanish because it's just too much to expect them to learn english.

Where does it end, and how much privilege are you going to award them simply because you don't have the heart to treat them like they should be treated?

[SteveBailey]

It depends upon how you approach problems, Neubob- if you believe issuing a decree that all illegals be forbidden to have drivers' licenses (and you need a license to have insurance) then what you'll get is alot of illegals driving cars without insurance. It seems ironic to take that approach since so many illegals have been here, and been driving, for years, but this is what voters like you, and Steve, and many others want, and is a predictable outcome.

Sheeesh guys, there's no need to get all mad at me for pointing out the obvious.

What I want, is for every last illegal top be deported and our borders protected so they cannot come back. 

[lazs2]

airhead...

I believe that Arizona has proven that if you don't pander to them... if you make it difficult for them to get cars or a place to live or a job...

That they will go back home all on there own.   It seems cruel and stupid and selfish to continue to give them a tiny little bone here or there so that you can have slave labor without the stigma.

lazs

[ChickenHawk]

Glad you were able to walk away and that your dog will be ok.  Maverick's advice about the medical release is good.  My wife was rear ended at about the same speed as you nine years ago and she thought she was ok but started suffering shoulder and neck problems soon after and has had problems ever since.  They will likely never go away.  Make sure.

Also glad that criminal was caught before he got away.  It could have ended very differently.

[Airhead]

What I want, is for every last illegal top be deported and our borders protected so they cannot come back. 

And denying them drivers licenses will help accomplish this? Or will denying illegals licenses create a situation where we have more uninsured motorists on the road?

[lazs2]

airhead.. I can't believe that you are so insensitve and cruel.

You know that the best way to take a bandage off  it quickly.. not slowly and painfully.    simply deny the illegals any opportunity or services here and they will go away.

lazs

[indy007]

Doctors said I'm fine. Quick visit. If I didn't work out frequently, I'd be in worse shape. He is making me withdraw from a grappling tournament next weekend and training for a month though. I geuss I should've mentioned that I'm moving into a new place Friday and hauling heavy furniture... but nothing can stop that at this point.

Such a crazy week for me.

[Holden McGroin]

And denying them drivers licenses will help accomplish this? Or will denying illegals licenses create a situation where we have more uninsured motorists on the road?

The idea is that you do not reward illegal behavior.

If you gave bank robbers a stipend of 5000 per heist, I would think that perhaps bank robbery would be more widespread.

If being here illegally was uber difficult, being here illegally would not be as common.

Good to here you are OK indy.  Sorry about the move.

[Airhead]

airhead.. I can't believe that you are so insensitve and cruel.

You know that the best way to take a bandage off  it quickly.. not slowly and painfully.    simply deny the illegals any opportunity or services here and they will go away.

lazs

lazs, we can't just wish them all away- it doesn't work like that. And even if we could just wish them all away, do you think that would make all our lives better, or worse?

[SteveBailey]

And denying them drivers licenses will help accomplish this? Or will denying illegals licenses create a situation where we have more uninsured motorists on the road?

Giving them licenses mean they will alll suddenly get insurance?  You can get insurance in the US with a mexican DL.  Why don't they have insurance now?

[indy007]

lazs, we can't just wish them all away- it doesn't work like that. And even if we could just wish them all away, do you think that would make all our lives better, or worse?

Had we wished them away yesterday, today would definately be better for me.