FSO Frame 1 thoughts.

[jammerz]

   We were in a TBM group that hit the Flak Factory.  We also climbed to 15k, bombed our target, dove and used rockets and TRIED to return to base undar but 7 or 8 zeros and Niki's chased us down one by one and shot us down.  A group of other TBM's were about 3K ahead of us runnin back to the CV and it looks like they made it!  Yes, I was one of the tallies for AKDogg  . The last one before he had to return to base for fuel/ammo.  I knew I should have turned and tried to fight em as they were pickin on my squaddie!  As it turned out, I turned to fight them after they were on my six and was easily killed.

[AKDogg]

I continued to chase those tbms after u for alittle but have a left main fuel leak, I had to break chase.  Lucky for them, hehehehe

[Banshee7]

my FSO was going well till i received friendly fire on accident. But all went bad when i tried to ditch and a friendly (rival in the MA) intentionally killed me

[Kermit de frog]

Hey CHawk's, you might want to READ the entire orders again.  I just did.  Your squad and ours were supposed to have escorts.  Unfortunately, the plan would still have NOT worked.  My point is this:
It's up to each Squad CO to fully understand the orders and to make comments prior to the event.

I take full responsibility for my squads slaughter at A87, as we were in the same boat as you Chawks.  I'd suggest All COs spend Thursday Nights reading the orders entirely, since there are now over 400 pilots looking to YOU for their equal chance of having fun.

<S>

Note to Frame 2 and 3 CiC's.

You'll probably have about over 400 pilots in the next two frames.  That's about >35 pilots for 6 action zones for each side.  That's about 70 planes in the sky for each zone during combat.  Server says; when more than 32 get together, glitches will be seen, such as planes dissappearing and enemy planes appearing out of line air.  It's a very large map, and so, you might want to use it.  Also, try to keep things simple NEVER rely on Hoarding as a tactic.  Very unfun for both sides.  Show some creativity and remember, let us have fun.

Oh and FiLth, guess you slept with the same fishes as us on friday night.  <S> to your chasing abilities and vectoring skills.  Argh!

[Saxman]

I'm not going to blame Allied failure on this entirely, but I still think that A6Ms should have made up more than just ~18% of the Axis force.

[Stoney]

why Rosevelt made the decision he did to end the war.

Might want to check your history there.

[Stoney]

I'm not going to blame Allied failure on this entirely, but I still think that A6Ms should have made up more than just ~18% of the Axis force.

Aircraft type mins/maxs were based on an expected 400 total pilots.  We had 460, so that through my requirements off.  Nothing that can't be adjusted.

[Stoney]

Hey CHawk's, you might want to READ the entire orders again.  I just did. 

Hey Kermit, can you shoot me those orders?

[DREDger]

Had a fun time as a walk on, my squad too, thanks guys.

From what I gather by the posts, IJ won the frame. 

Does one need to reset convergence settings from the MA, for SEA?  I mustof dumped 200 cannon and missed every shot from 400 out.

As n1k's we carried 75% and drop, which allowed us time to get uber alt and wait.  I wonder if maybe historically, IJ would have had to ration gas much more, and not had alt and initiative on any given day (suprise attack). 

Does takeoff time ever vary between axis and allied?

Were there manned ack positions available for axis?

Anyway, good fun.  'preciate the CiC efforts on this.

Dredg

[Saxman]

I can see fuel restriction as a valid handicap. But I would just love not having to see 30k Ki-84s dropping on my head again. Removing the Allied restriction of not being able to use the 1000lb bombs would help balance the bomber and jabo missions (it takes 3000lbs of ordinance to destroy a hangar. One F4U with the 2x1000lb bombs and rockets can do that, but forcing them to take the 500lbers means TWO aircraft have to make it through to target for each hangar, not just one).

[Stoney]

I can see fuel restriction as a valid handicap. But I would just love not having to see 30k Ki-84s dropping on my head again. Removing the Allied restriction of not being able to use the 1000lb bombs would help balance the bomber and jabo missions (it takes 3000lbs of ordinance to destroy a hangar. One F4U with the 2x1000lb bombs and rockets can do that, but forcing them to take the 500lbers means TWO aircraft have to make it through to target for each hangar, not just one).

TBM's can still carry 2,000 lbs of bombs, plus rockets.  Enough to drop a hangar single-handedly.

One thing that didn't work out was the weather that was supposed to create some cover.  It will be there for Frame 2 & 3.

[Kermit de frog]

Hey Kermit, can you shoot me those orders?

Email was sent last night.

Edit: looks like email didn't get sent.  Sorry about that.  Sent now.
 

[Valkyrie]

I had a fun night in a KI84 around 87. Only saw 1 f6f late and lost my elevator on the way in. I did make it back to the field though. Its been a tough month with FSO from my squad, but thats the way it goes Slow. I understand your feelings though (See post for frame 2 of 1000miles of mud snow and ice).

<S>
Vlkyrie1

[zorstorer]

Hi Roidrage, that might have been us , except I counted out about 16+ F6s I think.

Were you out ocean side of A87 area?  Tahgut and I had been called out to search.  We spotted a large group of F6Fs, and  vectored the closer group of Clowns into you, the Nightmares were right on their heels and came in shortly after engagement.

What a fight!!  to you if it was you, and feel free to accept that salute if not simply because that was a fun frame.

That was us ROC   I was the F6F that was diving at about 600mph   Made the drop then scooted out, but all I saw in the rear view was a WALL of red from 2k all the way up to 15k or so heading south on my 6.

One group = fun....
2 groups = pucker of 10
3+ groups = why bother?

[Arlo]

Little story about the event:

We'd just encountered that large group of KI-84s with alt and I'd just had my right aileron knocked off by one and was diving/extending away when my door starts thumping loud enough to get through my headphones. "WTF?" I set autolevel and take off my phones.

"Jay, you in there?" I go answer the door and it's one of my local friends, Paul who I've managed to addict to the game.

"I've been trying to call and see about flying the game together tonight, you're not answering the phone."

"That's because, uh, I'm playing it and I'm in an event."

(Paul walks three feet into my tiny trashed-out apartment and sees the game on.)

"Event? What kind of event?"

"Friday Squad Ops. This one right up my ally. I'm flying an Hog versus the best the Japanese have to throw at us. And .. I'm right in the middle of a fight!"

I unplug the phone part of the headset to allow sounds on the speaker.

Speaker: "Guthrie, where are you?" I bring up the mike.

"Turning around to climb and find you guys,"

And then Paul starts.

"Hog? What's a 'Hog?' So, looks pretty cool. How long you been playing this event?"

"First FSO frame of my life tonight. Been in other events in the past. This one's the first in years and I've really been looking forward to it. 'Hog's' a Corsair in this case."

Speaker: "We have more to the East, high" "I see em" "Watch your six" "I'm hit"

"In this case?"

"Yeah. The P-47 is also called that."

Speaker: "Watch it, he's coming around!" "I think one's headed to Guthrie."

(To mike) "I'm watching" (Well as best I can under the circumstances)

Paul continues, "So how long does it last?"

"Probably another hour, Paul. If I live long enough to reach the end of the frame, that is."

"Where is your base?"

So basically I end up explaining to Paul aka "SpprDoc" what an event is, what FSO is, how long they last, why they only allow one life per frame, how it only runs once a week and even then sometimes it doesn't, why my F4U doesn't roll as well when it's missing an aileron, why a Ki-84 that's at 30k and is at cruising speed has an advantage over an F4U at 25k and climbing, why the second Ki got me and then why I insist, now that I'm dead, to wait at the CV I so much wanted to land at, killess or not, for the surviving members of the squadron to land.

Heh ... then he says ... "Ok, well I'm gonna go back to the house and log on so we can fly together now."

"Ok, Paul, thanks for dropping by."

Heh. Such are the breaks.

AAR report: Halfway through the battle I had to take my head out of it and explain the scenario to a friend. Shot down by a Ki-84.

Moral of the story ... when there's a Ki-84, don't answer the door. Oh, and never tell your local friends about AHII.