Yahaveh,Yahushua, the truth.

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     I am trying to figure out how to begin this, well i guess at the beginning!!!!!
   "in the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.
     the earth was without form and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
      then God said 'LET THERE BE LIGHT": AND THERE WAS LIGHT"
       OK  i am going to explain a bit that no religion teaches, at the moment God created "Light" he created his son, who is the "LIGHT" to the world.  1st john chapter1 confirms this  "That which was from the beginning..." There are so many other verses that confirm this please read the bible ask God to show you the truth!!! (jesus) Yahushua,  see jesus (the name) is Greek, I am sorry but my savior was born Hebrew, his name was NOT and is NOT jesus, Yahushua, is our saviour he his our God, For Yahaveh gives him his power!! he is not God, he is NOT the creator, Yahaveh, (not yahweh, not jahoveh, not the LORD)Yahaveh is our creator!
   see Satan is tricky  he wants to confuse Gods children's minds, and sad to say he is doing his job well, when you do decide to pick up that bible you will notice The LORD, in many places, how about 6,551 times, ya 6,551,   well when the original writers of this letter wrote what Yahaveh told them to write they wrote his name, Yahaveh wants us to know his name "only those who call upon my name shall be saved..."
       at some point the scribes who rewrote the letter from Yahaveh decided his name was to sacred to say or write, so they took out his name and replaced it with " adon"  meaning master. hence "The LORD"
 i have found a verse Jeremiah 23,27  "who try to make my people forget my name..."  please read it my friends,  don't listen to what people say the bible says read it for your self, discern it, study it,  eternity is so much longer than this mortal life we have now!!!!!
        don't think about what people have done "in Gods name" thats people NOT our creator!!
        okay here is another one that "religion" has pushed on to people, the cross,  the cross is a pagen symbol  or idol, the original  word for cross in greek is "Stauros" meaning stake.  think about it this way even if it was a cross that our savior died upon, why would he want us to remember him by his implement of death? The third commandment states   "you shall not make for yourself a carved image any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth..."
    seems pretty clear to me!!!!! besides the cross IS a pagen symbol, that was adopted into Christendom!!!
  Yahaveh does not enjoy Idols they are an abomination to him, read the bible and find out for your self!!!
     here is another truth the king James bible was written in the 1600s,  it is not perfect but with some study the truth will be found!
   people "religion" will  say of course the bible is perfect well  want some proof?
     Hosea  12,5 in KJV  "That is the LORD God of Hosts.
The LORD is his memorable name."
     Hosea 12,6 in the Hebrew bible"yet the LORD,the God of Hosts, must be invoked as"LORD"

 think about this
  here is another

 Isaiah 44,5 KJV  "one will say"i am the LORD'S;
 Another will call himself by the name of Jacob;
Another will write with his hand"The LORD'S",
and name himself by the name of Israel."
   Hebrew Isaiah 44,5
"one shall say,"i am The LORD'S,another shall use the name of "Jacob",
Another shall mark his arm"of the "LORD", and adopt the name of "Israel"
    See how they are almost identical? but they are not!!!!      get yourself a Hebrew bible and compare even a Greek one, search for the truth, don't get a book on what the bible says or listen to what Men say the bible says read the bible it is wonderful and full of enlightenment,
       my one piece of advice when you read the bible and you see The"LORD"  in caps say gods name or when you see it like this The Lord "GOD" God in caps that is where God wanted his name placed. read it as Yahaveh
 Also when you read "Jesus Christ" THAT should be read Yahushua the messiah.
   i wish ALL who read this enlightenment and maybe a little understanding about the wonderful letter Yahaveh has sent to us!!!!
    if anyone has a question or needs some help please feel free to ask!! i will respond to ALL.
peace be to you
Paul

[-tronski-]

Look I'd had a lovely supper and all I said to my wife was "That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah."

 Tronsky

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Look I'd had a lovely supper and all I said to my wife was "That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah."

 Tronsky

its okay, most have never heard Gods true name!!

[Holden McGroin]

     I am trying to figure out how to begin this, well i guess at the beginning!!!!!
"in the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Well you got the very first thing wrong.

In the beginning, the Universe was without form and void. Then God said "Let their be inflationary expansion" and the first 10^-43 seconds, the Universe expanded from the size of an atom to the size of a cantelope.  And God saw that it was good.

Then God created the quarks and electrons and other fundamental particles, and allowed expansion to continue.

Then on the second day, (which in this case was about 300,000 yrs later), God said, "Let electrons combine with protons and neutrons to form atoms." and God saw that it was good.

On the third day, (about 1 billion years) God said, "Let gravity coalesce hydrogen and helium gas to form stars and other heavenly bodies"  and God saw that it was good.

 

[SD67]

THOUGHT is primary. Without thought you've got no WORD
So, if the WORD=GOD then where did the THOUGHT come from?

[Holden McGroin]

THOUGHT is primary. Without thought you've got no WORD

So how do you explain Jessica Simpson?  She can talk.

[JB88]

Look I'd had a lovely supper and all I said to my wife was "That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah."

 Tronsky

BLASPHEMER!!!!!

[RTHolmes]

So how do you explain Jessica Simpson?  She can talk.

 

[Phaser11]

Look I'd had a lovely supper and all I said to my wife was "That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah."

 Tronsky

STONE HIM!!!

[MoeRon]

STONE HIM!!!

STOP IT RIGHT NOW! STOP IT! All right, no one is to stone _anyone_ until I blow this whistle. Even... and I want to make this absolutely clear... even if they do say, "Jehovah. "

[lasersailor184]

If you analyze the Universe, you need to take a look at something called "The Entropic Death of the Universe."


Basically, Entropy means that to create something, you need to destroy something.  And you ALWAYS lose energy and mass when you destroy something.  There is never a 100% efficient process.  And there is never a perfectly reversible process either.

This tells us two major things.  First, that eventually the universe will uncreate itself.  Somewhere down the road, we're talking trillions, or possibly even quadrillions of years (or even further past our comprehension) the universe will not exist anymore.  Game over.  It ain't there anymore.  Nothing is there.

The other thing it tells us is that to get here, where we are today, the universe had to be something greater.  Or possibly the better word is 'More.' 


With this second piece, you can choose to accept a few things.  First is that an infinite amount of time in the past, the universe was an infinite amount more than where it is today.  And doubly as far back, it is doubly more than that.  You can believe that there was no beginning, that it always was.

Or you can believe that something in the universe, some super intelligent being, or some process we don't know about can go against Entropy and create energy and mass.  That something way back when created the universe.  That something way into the future can create it again.

[Maverick]

Judas,

Would you like some nice mulled wine? It's delicious!

[CyranoAH]

Who threw that stone? To the back of the crowd!

[REP0MAN]

[ClevMan]

Ink, I was curious about a couple of things after reading your post:

1)  Your argument seems on the surface to argue from a Jewish point of view, but with messianic characteristics.  With that said, are you Orthodox or are you more of a messianic Jew, or are you Jewish at all?  (I only ask because I want to see what direction you come from on this issue)

2) I believe you said in your post that Jesus is NOT God.  Are you saying that when Jesus became flesh that he laid aside His deity to come to earth? Or, was he created as a lesser being than God the Father in the first place?  How does this affect your view of the Trinity

2b) I am also curious...  If you believe that Jesus is not fully God, how do you view the atonement on Calvary?  Was it actually a perfect sacrifice if the blood shed by Christ was not fully God's.  Was that sacrifice sufficient as the author of Hebrews mentions in Chapter 9, with Christ's blood (which established the New Covenant) being a "better" blood than the sacrifices seen in The Old Testament?

Please do not take this as an attack.  I am very intrigued by your post, and I look forward to hearing your answers.

<S>  ClevMan