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Offline Shuffler

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 11:54:33 AM »
I was warned off Vista when I was about to buy a new notebook. Got XP, but guess what? It wouldn't install - would not recognise the HD.

I took the PC back and the company did some checks and found that my notebook was designed for Vista only, and would not take XP.

So I installed Vista x64 - and I'm pleased to say I haven't had a single problem in the 3 months I've had it.

My desktop PC needed an upgrade, and I bought new Vista-compatible hardware based on suggestions I'd read over at the AGW H/S forum. I opted for the x32 version this time because I had had ONE driver problem on x64, and was worried in case of later problems. Same deal - no problems with Vista at all, and I am very happy with it. :)

However! I had been using Trend Micro anti virus. This no longer worked with Vista SP1. TM were very unhelpful, so I purchased a new AV package - PCSecurity "The Shield" - works really well.

The only reason I can think of for dissatisfaction with Vista is because people have installed it on legacy hardware. From what I've read on AGW, that was never going to work.

Any machine that runs vista will run XP. Someone wanted to sell you vista.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 12:34:28 PM »
i would imagine that the flattening part would be prohibitive to that aim.

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 06:04:22 PM »
gone Linux, Coshy?

nope, have xp pro, I've reinstalled it about 5 times on the computers I use it on, never once asked for keys or to register it.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 06:15:21 PM »
I should be alright, I'm still with 2000. :D
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2008, 08:40:01 PM »
After XP is no longer supported im switching to Ubuntu linux. Heck, even a Mac is preferable to Vista if it comes to having to PAY for bloatware. 


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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2008, 08:50:04 PM »
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The only reason I can think of for dissatisfaction with Vista is because people have installed it on legacy hardware
Thats the thing---as far as Vista is concerned, ALL hardware previous to 2005 is legacy hardware
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2008, 09:56:36 PM »
wish AH had a linux client - i have run AH with cedega but a native linux client would be great
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2008, 04:37:57 AM »
Any machine that runs vista will run XP.

Not true. Read what I said about my notebook purchase ^ - XP would not install. Vista would and runs well. The problem for XP was that I could not format the Western Digital 200GB hard drive using any of the published utilities. Vista performs its own formatting of the HD.

Hehe, seems we all have an OS we love to hate. For many here it's Vista. For me it was XP. I was completely turned off when it came out c2001 and I learned that if you upgrade hardware for the nth time, it suspects you're running a fake copy, and you have to call M$ to get a key to unlock your system. :mad: I know there were ways round it, but at the time, I decided to go with W2K, which worked well until recently.

W2K is on the verge of losing M$ support. I got messages about that all the time in the last year or so. SP4 was the "final" SP, and then there were various "roll ups". Even if M$ were to continue supporting W2K, it doesn't mean others will, which is going to mean driver problems for some hardware, and releases of software that won't work. W2K cannot run the latest release of Trend Micro AV, and IIRC cannot run IE7.

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2008, 04:52:04 AM »
I will be buying one more copy! Although I have 2 copies of windows xp home that are not being used.

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2008, 05:22:47 AM »
Not true. Read what I said about my notebook purchase ^ - XP would not install. ...

Chances are that it wouldn't install because it is a SATA HDD for which the XP CD hadn't the drivers. You just needed to install the HDD drivers at the beginning of the XP install...

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2008, 05:23:59 AM »
wish AH had a linux client

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 06:31:07 AM »
No, it means, as an example.

We have a number of odler copies of Windows XP around here that do not have 48 bit IDE support which retricts the largest useable HD to 127GB,  So, we use newer copies and the old locense key when we have to re-install.  Perfectly legal as you are paying for the license.  The media just happens to come with the license.

Now Microsoft is invalidating those older licenses, requiring you to purchase a new copy of Windows XP.  They did this to hedge thier bets that Vista would tank.  It has, but sales have not suffered as anyone wanting to use an older license of XP can no longer do so with the latest release of Windows XP Pro.

Most IT departments keep one copy of Windows XP around, and then have all the licenses (activation numbers) filed away.  If you want to use the latest copy of Windows XP Pro, you have to purchase another set of licenses.

And lazs, it appears Vista is going the way of Windows ME.  In other words, it will be another lost step child from MIcrosoft.  Would not surprise me if they drop support for Vista about a year after Windows 7 is released.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 06:52:50 AM »
No, it means, as an example.

We have a number of odler copies of Windows XP around here that do not have 48 bit IDE support which retricts the largest useable HD to 127GB,  So, we use newer copies and the old locense key when we have to re-install.  Perfectly legal as you are paying for the license.  The media just happens to come with the license.

Now Microsoft is invalidating those older licenses, requiring you to purchase a new copy of Windows XP.  They did this to hedge thier bets that Vista would tank.  It has, but sales have not suffered as anyone wanting to use an older license of XP can no longer do so with the latest release of Windows XP Pro.

Most IT departments keep one copy of Windows XP around, and then have all the licenses (activation numbers) filed away.  If you want to use the latest copy of Windows XP Pro, you have to purchase another set of licenses.

And lazs, it appears Vista is going the way of Windows ME.  In other words, it will be another lost step child from MIcrosoft.  Would not surprise me if they drop support for Vista about a year after Windows 7 is released.
Any word whether Windows 7 is going to be less harsh to older, NON-MICROSOFT software than was Vista?
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2008, 08:37:02 AM »

....Now Microsoft is invalidating those older licenses, requiring you to purchase a new copy of Windows XP.  They did this to hedge thier bets that Vista would tank.  It has, but sales have not suffered as anyone wanting to use an older license of XP can no longer do so with the latest release of Windows XP Pro....

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2008, 08:53:33 AM »
Not true. Read what I said about my notebook purchase ^ - XP would not install. Vista would and runs well. The problem for XP was that I could not format the Western Digital 200GB hard drive using any of the published utilities. Vista performs its own formatting of the HD.

Hehe, seems we all have an OS we love to hate. For many here it's Vista. For me it was XP. I was completely turned off when it came out c2001 and I learned that if you upgrade hardware for the nth time, it suspects you're running a fake copy, and you have to call M$ to get a key to unlock your system. :mad: I know there were ways round it, but at the time, I decided to go with W2K, which worked well until recently.

W2K is on the verge of losing M$ support. I got messages about that all the time in the last year or so. SP4 was the "final" SP, and then there were various "roll ups". Even if M$ were to continue supporting W2K, it doesn't mean others will, which is going to mean driver problems for some hardware, and releases of software that won't work. W2K cannot run the latest release of Trend Micro AV, and IIRC cannot run IE7.

Xp will run on any machine that will run vista.

I have three 500 Gig SATAs and one 1 TB SATA on my main machine at home. I was running Xp64 but had issue with one of my printers. Was able to do a work around but decided to go back to XP Pro.
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