the world's largest and most expensive science experiment starting soon

[panzerr]

Pooh...

Black holes are likely at the center of every major galaxy. They have proven there existience and have hard scientific data proving such.

Anyone who knows the science behind black holes can tell you this lawsuit is an absolute joke. You would have to compress all the matter on Earth into the size of a period to create a sustainable black hole. Even then the event horizon would only be about the size of a marble. 

Another case of ignorance and stupidity hard at work....

Strip

 

[Gh0stFT]

As for the experiment destroying the world.
If it does, take heart, Gh0stFT will go before the rest of us.
If not, what is all the fuss.

lol,

if i have enough time i will instant inform you in teh O'club

There is a good read about LHC from 2007 on discovermagazine, some quotes:

It has taken over 20 years, $8 billion, and the combined efforts of more than 60 countries
to create this extraordinary particle smasher.

The detectors will generate a million gigabytes of data per second. “That’s several hundred
thousand DVDs per second. We don’t know how to burn that many DVDs that fast or what
we would do with them.”

This is uncharted territory: The collisions at LHC could spray out strange new kinds of matter,
unfurl hidden dimensions of space, even generate tiny glowing reenactments of the birth of the
universe. In short, there is more than just the search for the Higgs going on at the LHC.
“We don’t even know what to expect,”

quite interesting if you ask me, no wonder some people think this could lead to the end

more read here: http://discovermagazine.com/2007/aug/the-biggest-thing-in-physics/

[moot]

I wouldn't comment on the LHC's awesomeness and coolness, because anyone can see that.. But the volume of data created in experiments is indeed something that some people might not appreciate unless their attention was pointed to it.. Really impressive.

[Thruster]

See, I'm not that smart so I can't get my head around how one can invest so much capitol and intellectual resources on an experiment that has no defined result, no identifiable application, and no reasoned benefit.

And people say the war on terror's a waste of money.

[moot]

Thruster, not being able to get your head around it to the point of lowering it to some corny crap like "war on XXX" is tax on being illiterate.
FWIW.

[Thruster]

Moot,

It's not worth much, if anything.

Wasting money and mental energy on a multi billion dollar intellectual jerk off is just a scam. Privately funded science is one thing. Publicly funded white elephants are another. When the amount of energy and funds invested in academic mental masturbation starts to equal the GDP of a small industrialized nation I start to hope they have at least a cogent hypothesis to prove.

[Gh0stFT]

Thruster,
American physicist Steve Goldfarb working at LHC said it best:

What if neither team finds the elusive particle or rule that explains everything —
will all this have been worth it? “This whole complex detector probably only costs
the same as one super next-generation bomber to drop bombs better,” Goldfarb says.
“But the sole purpose of this is to figure out the universe. I’d rather have people working on something like this.”

[moot]

Moot,

It's not worth much, if anything.

Wasting money and mental energy on a multi billion dollar intellectual jerk off is just a scam. Privately funded science is one thing. Publicly funded white elephants are another. When the amount of energy and funds invested in academic mental masturbation starts to equal the GDP of a small industrialized nation I start to hope they have at least a cogent hypothesis to prove.

Over your head Thruster.  Being old already, you may die never realizing the importance of this physics experiment.

[Thruster]

I have to thank you for such an erudite and comprehensive response. So you have no idea what they're doing there either. The fact that an employee of the project thinks it's a good idea puts my mind at ease.

By the way, did you ever figure out how to defrost a freezer? If you're still confused I'll let our housekeeper talk you through it.

[moot]

I do have an idea. 
Specialist scientists, no minor number but a large proportion, all ensure that there at the very least a few very crucial elements of particle physics begging to be discovered by this huge contraption.  Not the least, a particle that'd settle the source of no less than gravity.. Not quite so much less important, insights or at the very least hints on the workings of what's supposed to be the very beginning of the known universe, clues on that damn 'dark matter' wild goose chase that eggheads have been trying to detect for decades now and that has become a real stubbling block on physics that affects all sorts of subcategories of physics, clues of funky temporal artifacts, etc... How about I let the specialists answer the question: http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern.ch/lhc-machine-outreach/why.htm
Or maybe I'm wrong and "The fact that a total layman of the project thinks it's a bad idea puts my mind on edge".

I figured out how to defrost a freezer probably before I got into my teens.  Doing it while very drunk is another matter, and one I'd challenge you to outdo me in, anytime.  Hammers and 5lbs chisel will be the tools.  [insert here some condescending inuendo about your housekeeper, or whatever]

All grammatical funk is to be blamed on bavaria 86.

Zzz

[Strip]

Thruster,
       Basicly they are speeding atoms around a circular race track at some 90% of the speed of light. These particals will impact a target atom and give off large amounts of energy. Upon impact some of the ejecta is broken down in to the most fundamental particals. The centers of some large stars are doing this on a truely infinite scale.Of course monitoring a star is impractical. For this reason we have ring colliders to bring the star to us. Colliders create the intense heat and speed associated with conditions of stars core. Particals like Bosons, Quarks, and Neutrinos have been detected with smaller devices similar to CERN. These are the building blocks of Protons and Neutrons which only a few decades ago were considered the fundemental particals of which all matter was comprised from. Since then we have learned that the rabbit hole of physics goes much deeper. CERN was designed to reach a power level that can break atoms into smaller pieces by an order of magnitude. Why would you spend billions of dollars on such a project? The simple answer is a illusive partical called a Higgs Boson and its what makes this project so special. The Higg Boson is theorized to be responsible for the force of gravity. Antigravity research hinges on proving this theory. (Think Starwars and StarTrek) Even if the theory is wrong we are still closing in on answering the fundemental question. Why are we here?

Strip

[Tac]

There's 2 'fantastic' theories that hang on the results of this big bad device.

Antigravity ... as explained above (which would confirm that surfer proffrs' theory of the Lie8 as being a map of how all particles interact in the universe)

and the infamous John Titor time traveler story / hoax that claimed that the multiverse theory would be proven when CERN became active.

me? .. im buying the lotto.

[moot]

Antigravity?  Just my speculation - but Feynman himself toured the CERN facilities where his theories were to be put to the test, so he was aware of the intended experiments, and Feynman himself pretty much categoricaly said he saw no way for anti-gravity to happen.

the LHC has a few other theories to test which are at least as important as anti-gravity.  I haevn't read into it, but the Higgs boson is what they're looking for.  Anti gravity would only begin to be considered after that was confirmed.

[Strip]

Moot,
     I agree that anti-gravity is very likely unattainable but can anyone really say for certain? The fact is we still dont understand what gravity is. The path to answering that question follows closely with finding the Higg Boson. Some of the other theories revolve around grand unification. The area between General Relativity and Quatum Physics is often cloudy and misunderstood. Aligning (Or disproving) these theories would be a great step foward.

Strip

[Russian]

Antigravity?  Just my speculation - but Feynman himself toured the CERN facilities where his theories were to be put to the test, so he was aware of the intended experiments, and Feynman himself pretty much categoricaly said he saw no way for anti-gravity to happen.

Where did you get info that info regarding Feynman? I'd like to read it... (fascinating man....)