Med league resignation

[StSanta]

With Afrika coming up, my withdrawal syndomres will be stilled by that   .

Med was supposed to be fun, but high alt monkeying is not for me - it is for some, so best of luck and have good fun. I know at least some other dedicated LW pilots feel the same.

3 missions, all of 'um met high numerically superior enemies. Two succesful missions, one not.

Let's see what the allies can do when they have to fight on equal terms. See ya all in Afrika!   .

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
 

[This message has been edited by StSanta (edited 10-28-2000).]

[Nath-BDP]

I agree... its stupid having only 3 people that will fly A8 then getting jumped by 10 spits... gemme a break--im not sacraficing my saturdays for this again.

[214thCavalier]

Lol you mean when you rob the allies of their historical advantages ??  

Oh and pls note the  

Still i can see its not gonna be to everybodys taste Santa but then neither is the mission loaded as per orders for a long range intercept and yes it showed max fuel and DT, only to find you got 25% fuel and loaded for Jabo my idea of fun either.
From then on i declared i could not take it seriously at all and just went Jabo for a little fun.

Err you had as many as 3 pilots ???
Surprisingly the 94th fighter group P38,s put up a disadvantage of err let me see, oh yes 2 pilots. How the hell can you play squad tactics with only 2 pilots flying ?

Personally i dont think the game should launch until all the walkons etc are assigned, i would not be surprised if Wolf saw the numbers of pilots in each squad and just erupted, and i appreciate Busc/Camo assigned some over but mebbe too late for Wolf to see.
Wolf ordered us all to abort game and land asap which most of us did i believe.

Considering the superior alt, dweeb, monkey planes   the allies have, i have to say the LW dont seem to have anything like the trouble filling there seats that the allies suffer.

Take that statement as read there is no hidden meaning or accusations hiding in it.

And apologies cos i know i strayed from the original thread.

Have fun wherever you fly Guys.

[This message has been edited by 214thCavalier (edited 10-28-2000).]

[StSanta]

Yah cav, I hear you.

It's just I am not undmerstanding what the med league is supposed to simulate. Fighting in WWII was more interdiction type strikes there, not strategic high alt bombing.

Which is why I'll like Afrika  

<S!>



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[wolf37]

hello:

Cavalear, My getting ticked off and ordering our plane to land had nothing to do with the numbers. the reason I order the allied planes down was the set up.

As I spent all week trying to get info on what planes and how many planes I would have. then sending out orders via e-mail to the squad CO's. then replacing squad CO's, as some of them had quit. and I was allowed to move squads, one from last week that was suppose to have moved but did not do to the mission planner, so it was suppose to have moved this week, plus one for my free move.
as well as one for the field capture.

so the typhoon squad should have started at A15, the planner put them at A11.

the 39th fighter group P38's should have started at A5, the planner had them at A11.

the RAF 234 should have started at A15 where it has alway6s been, was now starting at A!* do to the planner.

the 43rd spit squad that as far as I new was grounded this week because its starting field had been captured last week was now upping at A15 in the planner. I received an e-mail on friday night at about 12:30 my time telling me the 43rd spit squad was allowed to fly, because we had captured a enemy field. lots of time to let the squad CO know his squad was flying in frame two.

as for the P38 squads, I did not know there where three of them as it was in the planner.

back to the spits for a sec. why would i want bombs on my spitfires and why the 303 guns and not the .50 cals.

the B17's with 100% fuel will need atleast two hours just to get enough alt to put them over the acks, so why take 100% fuel.

so with all this, I ordered the allied planes down. and when I told busc I had ordered the allied planes down, I was suddenly booted.
did busc boot me, I dont know, but if not, then the timimg was perfect I guess.

Now I have sent busc an e-mail, hopfully we can get this all work out. and if he would rather I tep down as Commanding office of the allied forces, then I will. But I am not putting the time in to set up the all the squad's mission just to have it screw because of a mistake. and yes I am looking at it as a mistake when it comes to the planner.

I do know that busc was just trying to help with the planner, but sorry, he is not flying for the allies and does not know what the allies are doing.

I will wait to hear from busc.

wolf37

<edit> oops, sorry off topic there.
Santa, the allied planes where better at higher alt, so why can't they fly there in the Med league. it is suppose to be as real as it can get for a sim right.

wolf37

[This message has been edited by wolf37 (edited 10-28-2000).]

[214thCavalier]

Yea Wolf i can confirm you told us all to NOT use the mission planner b4 we upped cos you said it was full of errors, but i believe when you mentioned it to Busc he replied something like we have to use it ?
If that is in anyway wrong please ignore it but from memory i believe its correct.

[LJK Raubvogel]

I think I'll be joining you Santa. Getting jumped by 10 Spits at 30k isnt my idea of fun.

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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

[wolf37]

hi all:

cavalear, you are right.

wolf37

[StSanta]

wolf, the reason is: it din't happen that way in the Med in WWII. Simple as that.

There weren't constant 33k hi alt fighter engagements.



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[BUG_EAF322]

I flew totaly alone with my squad bounce a me 109 flight and a 205 flight no kills landed at 4 what a fun.

not much allied showed up

High alt. fight ?
hey this is AH we don't have a solid cloud deck to escape and other reallife stuff.

[wolf37]

Santa, what allied fighters where at 33k, and how do you know they where at 33k unless you where 33k as well.

wolf37

[-lynx-]

StStanta - quit BS, I shot down both you and Nath – there was no alt monkeying in either engagement.

We were at 25K when I saw 7 dots slightly higher. I was separated by 5-6K from the main group by then and was scared toejamless that 7 big ugly loudmouthed 190s would kill me before any help can get even in range.

There was absolutely no question of you being "jumped by 10 alt monkies Spits" ("…look mom those 10 big bad Spits jumped me…") - there was no 10 Spits in the vicinity to begin with and you had slight alt advantage at the start.

I dropped the tank and hit WEP trying to get at least co-alt with you. 5 190s just sailed past me totally ignoring lonely defenseless Spitfire  . 2 stayed separated form the main group - I wasn't happy about being sandwiched between 2 groups all by myself but winged over and went after the last 190 of the first group... In just a few seconds there was a high alt (20K+) furball in progress with 190s generally dragging the fight down.

I know I should have filmed the whole encounter - I will next time to stop all this nonsense arguments about "alt monkies" and "being jumped at 33K". That film would include another 190 I tried to chase after – he’d just pointed his nose downwards and disengaged (SpitIX can’t catch a running A8, even in a dive)…

The only ones who I saw "being jumped" were Strauss and his wingmen - they were low - and got "jumped" by a patrol of 4 Spits with kbman as FL. They fought at a disadvantage and died - Strauss scissored in front of me, I saw hit sprites all over his airframe, should have filmed it - duh! Our patrol was flying towards F19 at 25K initially.

I flew 2 Saturdays so far - last Sat was a mess to start with but then I had loads of fun. I'm yet to get a scratch on my Spitfire, I claimed 2 109s and an assist in the previous frame and 4 190s an another assist in the last frame.

Advantage – disadvantage – who’s saying the war has to be fought on equal terms? 234th eventually rolled with 3 pilots out of 8, SkyRdr had to parachute few miles off 18 and walked <S!> back to base not to lose a pilot on top of the lost airframe. Nash had computer crash and got back on-line ~1.5 hours into the frame. Camel ditched, I got discoed 10 minutes before the frame was supposed to be over – couldn’t connect to AH at all after this.

I didn’t design the event – I just fly in it and I accept that there would be all sorts of mishaps along the way. I wish more people would stop expecting "equality of terms" and "fairness" – life’s generally not fair  .

p.s. Just read AAR report for the LW side - flight of Tiffies got almost wiped out - I hear no complaints about it...

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lynx
13th RAF
(Med - 234th RAF)

[This message has been edited by -lynx- (edited 10-30-2000).]

[BUG_EAF322]

stsanta ur gonna face the same old probs in the Afrika corps scenario,
I'm sure about that.

[LLv34_Camouflage]

 

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322:
stsanta ur gonna face the same old probs in the Afrika corps scenario,
I'm sure about that.

15k alt limit in the Afrika Korps scenario.

Camo



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Camouflage
XO, Lentolaivue 34
 www.muodos.fi/LLv34

Brewster into AH!

"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."

[fd ski]

I would suggest that you leave your attitudes and agendas at the door before you enter the Afrika Corps arena.

This is about having fun - not personal vendettas.


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Bartlomiej Rajewski
aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF

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