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Offline DPQ5

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Water Injection
« on: June 01, 2008, 07:34:29 PM »
Many allied aircraft had the ability to inject a limited amount of a water ethonal mixture into the engine to cool it down. This will allow longer weps for the out numbered pilot with 3 planes on his 6
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 07:35:36 PM »
What do you think 'WEP' is?

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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 07:37:51 PM »
What do you think 'WEP' is?

lol i realy dont know :rolleyes:
to me its just extra gogo power
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 08:23:08 PM »
lol i realy dont know :rolleyes:
to me its just extra gogo power
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 09:14:15 PM »
War Emergency Power....or more go go power as you so eliquently put.

This is the water injection your talking about.....tho we have a replenishing supply.

In RL they had a finite amount.

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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 09:38:47 PM »
WEP should be finite in AH.  What is this?  Some kind of x-wing fighter game? :uhoh
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008, 09:40:50 PM »
WEP should be finite in AH.  What is this?  Some kind of x-wing fighter game? :uhoh
What about AC that just use over boost? No additive is used. Once cooled, ready to use again.
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008, 09:51:29 PM »
What about AC that just use over boost? No additive is used. Once cooled, ready to use again.

Well, that's fine.  But if an aircraft had limited WEP, it should be the same in the game.
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 10:33:19 PM »
It is limited....however when the engine cools you regain some (not all I believe) of the available WEP.

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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2008, 10:35:55 PM »
War Emergency Power (WEP) is an American term for the throttle setting on some World War II military aircraft engines. For use in emergency situations, it produced more than 100% of the engine's normal rated power for a limited amount of time, often about five minutes.

Maximum normal power would be limited by a mechanical stop, for instance a wire across the throttle lever slot, but a more forceful push would break the wire allowing extra power. In normal service, the P-51H Mustang was rated at 1,380 hp, but WEP would deliver up to 2,218 hp. The Vought F4U Corsair, not originally equipped for WEP, later boasted a power increase of up to 410 hp (17%) when WEP was engaged. Several methods were used to boost engine power by manufacturers, including water injection and methanol-water injection. Some earlier engines simply allowed the throttle to open wider than normal, allowing more air to flow through the intake. All WEP methods result in greater-than-usual stresses on the engine, and correspond to a reduced engine lifetime. For some airplanes, such as the P-51, use of WEP required the plane to be grounded after landing and the engine torn down and inspected for damage before returning to the air.

The German MW50 system required additional piping, as well as a storage tank, increasing the aircraft's overall weight. Like other boost techniques, MW50 was restricted by capacity and engine temperatures and could only be used for a limited time. The GM 1 nitrous oxide injection system, also used by the Luftwaffe, provided extreme power benefits of 25 to 30 percent but required cooling on the ground and added significant weight.

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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 04:41:28 AM »
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 12:39:24 PM »
was thinking the same Bronk  :lol
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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 12:45:17 PM »
It is limited....however when the engine cools you regain some (not all I believe) of the available WEP.

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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 04:02:02 PM »
Well, that's fine.  But if an aircraft had limited WEP, it should be the same in the game.

Which of course brings up the Spits 5 min WEP limit.

The 5 minutes was a time limit after which the pilot had to inform the groundies. NOT a physical limit.

Spit pilots flew well past 5 minutes, the longest recorded being over 30 mins while being chased by a pair of 190's.

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Re: Water Injection
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 04:03:50 PM »
Which of course brings up the Spits 5 min WEP limit.

The 5 minutes was a time limit after which the pilot had to inform the groundies. NOT a physical limit.

Spit pilots flew well past 5 minutes, the longest recorded being over 30 mins while being chased by a pair of 190's.



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