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British Westland Whirlwind
« on: June 07, 2008, 12:45:27 PM »
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[edit] Specifications (Whirlwind)
General characteristics

Crew: One pilot
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
Wingspan: 45 ft 0 in (13.72 m)
Height: 11 ft 7 in (3.53 m)
Wing area: 250 ft² (23 m²)
Empty weight: 8,310 lb (3,770 kg)
Loaded weight: 10,356 lb (4,697 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 11,410 lb (5,175 kg)
Performance

Maximum speed: 360 mph (560 km/h)
Range: 808 miles (1,300 km)
Service ceiling 30,315 ft (9,240 m)
Rate of climb: 1.550 ft/min (474 m/min)
Wing loading: 41 lb/ft² (204 kg/m²)
Armament

4x Hispano 20 mm cannon in nose (60 rounds per gun, 240 rounds total)
2x 250 lb (115 kg) or 500 lb (230 kg) bombs


The Whirlwind's origin lay in the new aircraft being developed for the RAF after the last of the biplane fighters. With higher attack speeds giving shorter opportunities for firing on targets, it was decided to increase the minimum level of armament on their aircraft. Instead of two rifle calibre machine guns, eight were specified. At the same time it was recognised that guns such as the Hispano-Suiza with 20 mm exploding ammmunition offered another route to heavy firepower and requests were made for aircraft designs with four of these cannon.

A serious problem for air planners of the 1930s was that one could build a nimble combat aircraft only if it was small. Such an aircraft would have limited space for fuel, and would only have enough range to fight in defensive operations. A multi-engined fighter appeared to be the best solution to the problem of range, but it seemed that any fighter large enough to incorporate a substantial fuel load would be too unwieldy to fight its single-engine counterparts.

The Germans and U.S. pressed ahead with such programs anyway, resulting in the Messerschmitt Bf 110 and the Lockheed P-38. Soon the Luftwaffe was boasting that the 110 could beat any single-engine fighter, and do so, while operating at long ranges escorting their bombers. This piqued the interest of the Air Ministry who finally decided to try their hand at such a "destroyer" design and sent out a requirement to aircraft manufacturers. Gloster, Hawker and Westland all responded; the Gloster F.9/37 and Westland F.37/35 designs (from an earlier specification issued for a cannon-armed fighter) were given the go-ahead (Hawker was busy with the Hurricane).

 
Westland Whirlwind prototype L6845 c.1940Westland's design team, under the new leadership of Teddy Petter (who later designed the English Electric Canberra and Lightning), returned an aircraft that employed state-of-the-art technology. The fuselage was a small tube with a T-tail at the end, built completely of stressed-skin monocoque duraluminium. The pilot sat high under one of the world's first full bubble canopies, and the low and forward location of the wing made for superb visibility (except directly over the nose). In the nose were four 20 mm cannons, making it the most heavily armed fighter aircraft of its era with their clustering meaning there were no convergence problems as there are with wing-mounted guns.

The resulting design was quite small, only slightly larger than the Hurricane in overall size, but smaller in terms of frontal area. All of the wheels fully retracted and the entire aircraft was very "clean" with few openings or protuberances. Careful attention to streamlining and two 885 hp Peregrine engines powered it to over 360 mph (580 km/h), the same speed as the latest single-engine fighters, using much higher-powered engines. The speed quickly garnered it the nick-name Crikey, (a minced oath meaning "my god!" or more accurately "Christ's keys!").

The first prototype (L6844) flew on 11 October 1938 with production starting early the next year. It exhibited excellent handling and was very easy to fly at all speeds. The only exception was landing, which was all too fast. Fowler flaps were added to correct this problem, which also required the horizontal stabilizer (tailplane) to be moved up, out of the way of the disturbed air flow when the flaps were down. Hopes were so high for the design that it remained "top secret" for much of its development, although it had already been mentioned in the French press.

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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 07:25:31 PM »




Never heard of this one. How many were produced?
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 07:29:37 PM »
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Never heard of this one. How many were produced?

116, which did equip 2 squadrons
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 07:35:07 PM »
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At low level, the aircraft was a devastating fighter-bomber, armed with both cannons and bombs, and it could hold its own with the Bf 109 at low-level. The performance of the Peregrine fell off at altitude, so the Whirlwind was used almost exclusively at low level.

The aircraft is well summed up by Francis K. Mason’s comments in Royal Air Force Fighters of World War Two, Vol. One:

“Bearing in mind the relatively small number of Whirlwinds that reached the RAF, the type remained in combat service, virtually unmodified, for a remarkably long time…The Whirlwind, once mastered, certainly shouldered extensive responsibilities and the two squadrons were called upon to attack enemy targets from one end of the Channel to the other, by day and night, moving from airfield to airfield within Southern England
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 07:55:45 PM »
BRING IT ON!! NEW PLANES NEW PLANES NEW PLANES NEW PLANES NEW PLANES!!  :D :D
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2008, 11:26:18 PM »
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The first prototype (L6844) flew on 11 October 1938 with production starting early the next year. It exhibited excellent handling and was very easy to fly at all speeds. The only exception was landing, which was all too fast. Fowler flaps were added to correct this problem, which also required the horizontal stabilizer (tailplane) to be moved up, out of the way of the disturbed air flow when the flaps were down. Hopes were so high for the design that it remained "top secret" for much of its development, although it had already been mentioned in the French press.
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Pretty plane. (I have a 1/72 scale model of it dangling from the ceiling over me as I type this.) "Teething problems" with the Peregrine engines were what held it back.  Shame, really.  Imagine what 11 Group might have done to the Luftwaffe bombers with these cannon-toting lovelies in the Summer of 1940?



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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 01:46:36 AM »
Such a shame they never gave it the Merlin.  I think it was the words first aircraft with a bubble canopy, the view from that cockpit was supposed to be superb.  It was also the heaviest armed fighter in the world in its day.
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 01:49:40 AM »
And a dog to boot.  Better off with a Beaufighter.  lots more produced, lots more possibilities for use.  Just as many cannons for those who need those kinda things :)
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 01:54:15 AM »
And a dog to boot.  Better off with a Beaufighter.  lots more produced, lots more possibilities for use.  Just as many cannons for those who need those kinda things :)

pffftt... you are just bitter because someone found a prettier, betterer, brillianter twin than your peedirty8 :D
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 05:00:05 PM »
pffftt... you are just bitter because someone found a prettier, betterer, brillianter twin than your peedirty8 :D

P-L-E-A-S-E!  Give me a break.   :rolleyes:  After seeing this picture how can you say THAT with a straight face.

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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 09:12:09 PM »
The Westland Whirland would just be an awsome aircraft to have. How many planes can you say had 4 cannons in 1940?? I can't really think of any. This plane would be an awesome perk ride for EW. It does fit the category for a perk ride with few produced and heavy gun package. All the other EW planes either have BBs or very slow firing low velocity cannons. This thing could tear anything up in the sky in EW, MW, and maybe hold a stronge spot in the LW. HTC bring on the Westland Whirlwind.
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 03:02:42 AM »
P-L-E-A-S-E!  Give me a break.   :rolleyes:  After seeing this picture how can you say THAT with a straight face.



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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2008, 03:11:45 AM »
cute aircraft, never knew it existed. I cant believe they scrapped all of them :( thats a beast for 1940 too :aok inspiration for the Meteor airframe maybe?
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Re: British Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2008, 01:59:20 PM »
Such a shame they never gave it the Merlin. 
That concept came to be after the war in the DH.103 Hornet.  472mph at 22k'.  I wonder what the result of a duel between a Hornet and Tigercat (F7F) would be?
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2008, 03:37:37 PM »
Yeah but the DH Hornet entered service in 1946?  Imagine the effect a long range high performance twin would have had in 1940/41?

If anything, the 8th AF yanks would have benefitted with a long range escort able to escort them longer distances than the spits and early 47's, could have lowered their loss rate tremendously in the early/mid days.
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