Man Kills at Least Seven in Stabbing Rampage at Popular Tokyo Shopping District

[lazs2]

oh.. and whitman?   he was a lifelong hunter and marine who was a better shot than probly anyone on this board.  He had the high ground and was the first to ever do such a shooting.   he killed with ease for a long time.   When the people got their guns and started shooting back at his protected and well picked out spot.. he killed no more.

He could not get a shot even tho he was an expert.   the shooting back also gave cover to the 2 cops and a civilian who got up into the tower and killed him.. he was prepared for an assault on the position and had a shotgun for close range... he couldn't use it because he was too busy.

There is good reason why the cops give credit to the civilians with guns.

lazs

[moot]

Mexican related crime definitely skews Arizona's stats.

[lazs2]

yep.. the liberals can't have it both ways.. they can't say that illegals are no problem and then point to arizona as being a crime capital.

Look back at the stats to back in 96 or before.. the crime rate is much lower.   

lazs

[john9001]

Morgan Quitno did the survey, some notes on morgan quitno surveys. i report, you decide.


>>Note
The FBI recommends against use of its crime statistics for the direct comparison of cities as Morgan Quitno does in its "Most Dangerous Cities" rankings. This is due to the many factors that influence crime in a particular study area such as population density and the degree of urbanization, modes of transportation of highway system, economic conditions, and citizens' attitudes toward crime. [1]

In November 2007 the executive board of the American Society of Criminology (ASC) approved a resolution opposing the development of city crime rankings from FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCRs). The resolution states the rankings "These rankings represent an irresponsible misuse of the data and do groundless harm to many communities" and "work against a key goal of our society, which is a better understanding of crime-related issues by both scientists and the public."[2]

The U.S. Conference of Mayors has criticized the "Most Dangerous Cities" list, saying the annual city-by-city crime rankings are "distorted and damaging to cities' reputations." [3]

In October 2007 The American Society of Criminology, The U.S. Conference of Mayors, and The Federal Bureau of Investigation requested that the publisher reconsider the promotion of the book — specifically, "their inaccurate and inflammatory press release labeling cities as 'safest' and 'most dangerous'" — because the rankings are "baseless and damaging." [4]

Cities of Illinois are not included in this ranking, due to unmatch in rape cases between Illinois State police data and FBI data.
Other cities may not be included due to lack of some data.
Morgan Quitno's "Most Dangerous Cities" ranking has been criticized as a statistical half-truth, since it does not adjust rankings of cities with wide area city limits (Houston, Jacksonville) compared to cities with inner core limits (St. Louis, Atlanta). Houston's city crime statistics, for instance, are diluted by lower crime in affluent areas within its broad city limits, whereas almost all the low crime affluent areas of St. Louis are outside its city limits, which constitute only 12.5% of its metro area. St. Louis would fall far down the dangerous cities list just by annexing adjacent suburbs in this methodology, with no actual change in personal safety. Metro area rankings include all suburbs for all MSAs and therefore have some validity>>

[AKIron]

seems that for murder..  arizona is 7th....http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=169

It used to be like 20th in the last few years tho illegal immigration has shot the crime up.   

As for the stabbing problem in japan.. I see it as a real danger... they have a culture of suicide there.  Now that one has gotten his 15 minutes of fame with a "dark avenger" kind of suicide.....  it will become more common

I do not feel that arming them would be a good idea.. for pretty much the same reason that they shouldn't have drivers licenses.... If I had to be there I would want a gun tho.

rolex is right.. it is a matter of culture more than anything..  I fear that the culture of suicide (highest rate in the world) and the whole "dark avenger culture" is gonna become a nasty mix for our little yellow friends.

Another interesting fact is that.. on the whole.. getting shot with a handgun and getting stabbed have the same 80% survival rate.   fear guns... fear knives..   fear weapons.... same same.

lazs

We needn't go back too many decades to see where Japan's "culture" took them. It certainly was not a nonviolent culture though perhaps they didn't murder as many of themselves directly as they did of their neighbors.

[SteveBailey]

...and Korea was a result of a bad chicken curry right?

 Tronsky

One reason Hitler and his party were able to stay in power and murder millions was because of his gun control laws.  Do you need a history lesson or are you happy being ignorant?

Edit:  Here, just in case you actually want to know something about what you are discussing, here's a sample of the Nazi weapon law of 1938:

Jews (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons.  Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

Joseph Goebbels on Kristallnacht, after the jews were disarmed:

,  "All Jewish stores are to be destroyed immediately . . . . Jewish synagogues are to be set on fire . . . . The Führer wishes that the police does not intervene. . . . All Jews are to be disarmed. In the event of resistance they are to be shot immediately

Still want to talk about curry chicken?

[straffo]

I want to speak of curry chicken , please provide us a real example of a country freed by its own because of the absence of gun control

[SteveBailey]

I want to speak of curry chicken , please provide us a real example of a country freed by its own because of the absence of gun control

USA


owned


Next!

[straffo]

See Rule #4

[ROX]

<<<<<<<<---------Knows better than to post here





                                   






ROX

[SteveBailey]

See Rule #4

by its own

Yep.  Can you?  Straffo, you asked for one example, you got one.   How about Republic of Texas, 1836?  There's another. 

Wouldn't you consider France in 1789?  No, you wouldn't because you are not having a discussion, you are merely looking to insult me after you've been shown to be wrong..... again.


Owned.


Next!

[straffo]

my arse , I didn't used the word obtuse ,you did.
<edit> btw I agree I over reacted

The texas revolution was great success,so successful it took only two wars to complete the job !

<edit>It doesn't compare to the situation of the jew in germany IMO , the mexican state in the past was certainly as pitiful as it is today.

<edit2> (can't get my brain to work really today) ,France ,starting in 1789 followed a sucession of changes from total monarchy to constitutional monarchy then republic and finally dictatorship
I wonder if the french people can be considered as free before 1958 (but it's my very own opinion)
And as today there is so much archaisms in my country I wonder if it's not something I'm pinning my hopes on

[john9001]

I want to speak of curry chicken , please provide us a real example of a country freed by its own because of the absence of gun control

Algeria, french indo-china.

[SteveBailey]

my arse , I didn't used the word obtuse ,you did.
<edit> btw I agree I over reacted

The texas revolution was great success,so successful it took only two wars to complete the job !

<edit>It doesn't compare to the situation of the jew in germany IMO , the mexican state in the past was certainly as pitiful as it is today.

Certainly Germany was more organized than Old Mexico.  And you are right about Texas in that it was in a precarious position after the revolutoin.  But it did gain it's independence from Mexico under the circumstances we are discussing.

FWIW, I am well aware of the  key assistance your country gave us in our war of independence.  I thank you.

[straffo]

Algeria, french indo-china.

there was gun control in both cases,I know it for sure

<edit> no need to thank me, you can thank my country but not me , I was not involved in any help.