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Offline LYNX

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Internet threatened
« on: June 08, 2008, 03:49:03 PM »
check out the link.  These internet actervists have some bad news for us all. 

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/4839/2012__The_Year_The_Internet_Ends__/

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Offline Vulcan

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 04:27:48 PM »
LOL I stopped as soon as I heard Net Neutrality.
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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 04:36:03 PM »
What a crock of BS
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Offline LYNX

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 04:41:22 PM »
Quote from: Vulcan on June 08, 2008, 04:27:48 PM
LOL I stopped as soon as I heard Net Neutrality.

It seems I may not be as informed as yourself.  Could you kindly fill me in on past history with this group.

Seemed like they were concerned to me.

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Offline Roundeye

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 04:57:32 PM »
I lost interest when the camera panned away from the female.  She's hot.  (and stacked :devil)
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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 07:20:57 PM »
Quote from: Roundeye on June 08, 2008, 04:57:32 PM
I lost interest when the camera panned away from the female.  She's hot.  (and stacked :devil)

OK, now I'm not gonna ignore the link :)
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Offline Vulcan

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 08:10:09 PM »
Quote from: LYNX on June 08, 2008, 04:41:22 PM
It seems I may not be as informed as yourself.  Could you kindly fill me in on past history with this group.

Seemed like they were concerned to me.

Cheers
Lynx

Net Neutrality = bunch of p2p downloaders worried their downloads are going to stop going as fast, have no clue about ISP business models/costs, and are fairly ignorant around the technical aspects of networks in general.
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Offline Rolex

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 11:39:21 PM »
Quote from: Vulcan on June 08, 2008, 08:10:09 PM
Net Neutrality = bunch of p2p downloaders worried their downloads are going to stop going as fast, have no clue about ISP business models/costs, and are fairly ignorant around the technical aspects of networks in general.
So, an ISP interrupting and breaking a customer's use of Skype to force their own paid IP phone service is fine by you?
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Offline DPQ5

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 11:41:59 PM »
how could the internet end in the first place
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Offline Holden McGroin

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2008, 11:54:09 PM »
Quote from: DPQ5 on June 08, 2008, 11:41:59 PM
how could the internet end in the first place

At the winter solstice 2012 the world ends and the internet cannot continue.
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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 12:01:02 AM »
Quote from: Rolex on June 08, 2008, 11:39:21 PM
So, an ISP interrupting and breaking a customer's use of Skype to force their own paid IP phone service is fine by you?

First name an example of this.

Second, change ISP's.

Third an ISP deploying VoIP will typically segment off the VoIP network by VLAN or MPLS, such that any data apps do not 'touch' bandwidth allocated for VoIP.

Fourth VoIP bandwidth is typically very low, so bumping apps off for VoIP bandwidth is unlikey.

Fifth if an ISP doesn't traffic shape then Skype is more likely to be negatively impacted by restricted use of agressive Peer 2 Peer apps.

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Offline Rolex

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 12:16:32 AM »
Don't "next question" me. Your version of the world is not the word of God, young man.

Comcast does it.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2008, 12:18:25 AM by Rolex »
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Offline Holden McGroin

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 12:19:42 AM »
Catfight!

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Offline SD67

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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 12:25:10 AM »
Bear in mind that UDP packet modification affects us playing AH as well.
Traffic shaping bites however it's performed, but I'd much rather they just limit the speed once an amount has been exceeded than disrupt one type of traffic altogether.
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Re: Internet threatened
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 12:55:16 AM »
Quote from: Rolex on June 09, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
Don't "next question" me. Your version of the world is not the word of God, young man.

Comcast does it.

How exactly? All I've seen is that comcast uses tcp rst's for traffic shaping in general. TCP RST's are not the best way to shape your traffic. Although if you dig a little deeper Skype uses UDP anyway so the Skype 'poisoning' conspiracy sort of dies with that news :)

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