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Offline angelsandair

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Re: American commies are for Obama!
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2008, 08:44:44 AM »

communism is immoral..  any government that takes from one person to give to another... by force..(and that is what government is, force) is an immoral government.  the more of that it does the more immoral it is.


Shoot, that's what democrats are doing to us now. Especailly with Welfare.......

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« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2008, 08:48:21 AM »
So what's your criteria? Democracy = power of democrats?

You probably don't get me, Mugabe really got elected by the majority, he was whet they really wanted.
It is easy to get a majority vote when those who vote against are bullied into voting 'for' or not voting at all. Chasing the opposition candidate going into hiding because of fear for his life helps as well.

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« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2008, 08:48:33 AM »
Cuz we're Americans. It's what we do. If anyone doesn't like it, they can get off this AMERICAN website.
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Re: American commies are for Obama!
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2008, 08:51:37 AM »
mojava.. the article you linked is simplistic and false logic.   They don't even get a paragraph into it before they state a false premis and then built the rest of the house of cards logic on that.

they define the republican party or.. their euphemism for capitalism.. as having the purpose of making only a few prosper while the rest suffer... that is not the purpose at all... the purpose is to provide all the opportunity to prosper and raise the overall prosperity of everyone but especially those who have worked hard and earned it. 

Socialism says..  "from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs"   Capitalism and democratic republics say..  "individual rights and the right to the pursuit of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."    It says that each man is the captain of his own destiny and that he will go as far as his abilities take him..  it should provide the armies and the courts to protect him in this pursuit.

Just because someone whines or has the ability to whine does not mean they deserve to take from others.

Socialism is immoral.. it is taking by force from one to give to another for no reason other than to redistribute the wealth and to achieve some equality of outcome no matter how much or little each person contributes.

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« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2008, 08:52:55 AM »
Yutes are such easy targets for communism, socialism etc. If you have ever heard some one speak about communism you would think, wow that is beautiful. Only problem is it doesn't work. Heck at one time Russia didn't have toilet paper.

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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2008, 09:05:32 AM »
angels.. yes..  welfare and such are socialism as are public schools the way we run them..  it is immoral and.... as you can see.. it is a total failure.

We are not without socialism here and every bit of it is evil.   we have less than most places tho so we are better off.   We are more free because of it.    The democrats here have sold out to the socialist voters.. the unions.. the teachers.. the environmentalists and the welfare addicts..  they can only exist by promising more and more of everyone elses money to these groups..   you save $2000 a year at walmart?   kill it... they are not union... car industry going down the tubes?  who cares so long as they get that auto worker vote...

schools shot?  don't let anyone have vouchers cause the teachers will have to work for a living and be angry at the polls.. infrastructure shot?  well.. we needed the road money to pay for socialism..   energy costs too much?   sorry.. can't drill for more or build nuclear power plants or mine the coal.. let em eat cake.

and... take away their guns cause when they finally wake up... you sure as hell don't want em to be armed.. as diane finestein says...  "we have to ban the .50 caliber because it can penetrate the armor on a armored limmo."

In a shooting war.. I would have no problem with shooting every sob who told me he was gonna take something away from me for my own good.

Those privlidged, spoiled little brats in the pictures not withstanding.. as least oswald had the courage and conviction to go and live in a commie country paradise for a while.  I wonder if they can get che t shirts in china?

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Re: American commies are for Obama!
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2008, 10:11:42 AM »
Ever hear of the 'red tide'.
Well there are several versions of the red tide, but as I know it - as it was explained to me by a non party affiliated professor - was that eventually and inevitably, communism or socialism would make its way into America and take a majority rule in government. 

That was 15 years ago.  I thought the guy was nuts.  He believed that the 'down and out' will support this and make this happen because they are usually the loudest.  It's always presented as 'doing the right and kind thing'.

Funny how it always ends up being the biggest sin to humanity and creating more war than what we have now.  But the idiots of the world don't look at history and how it reflects on them today.

Everyone thinks their special.  New flash: you're not.  You're just another blob of flesh walking this planet for a very short period of time.

History WILL repeat itself if you choose to ignore it. 

It's the basic definition of insanity.  Doing the same thing over and over again and expected a different result when all things are constant.  How many times do you have to watch people bang their heads on the wall to find out that it hurts for yourself?

Communism and socialism is BAD,........very very bad.

I'll tell you this.  I won't be going to work if anymore of my paycheck goes out to fund other people's lax lifestyles. 

I believe in helping those that can't help themselves!  But I also believe in responsibility for ones actions.  At the rate we are going, with the current nutjob running for president - if he gets in we are all screwed. 

Us 'middle classers' aren't going to keep shuffling off to work everyday busting our tulips so that others can sit on theirs.


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« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2008, 10:32:55 AM »
Having an election doesn't mean it's a democracy.

Having a democracy doesn't mean you're free.
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Re: American commies are for Obama!
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2008, 04:01:58 PM »
Socialism says..  "from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs"   Capitalism and democratic republics say..  "individual rights and the right to the pursuit of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."    It says that each man is the captain of his own destiny and that he will go as far as his abilities take him..  it should provide the armies and the courts to protect him in this pursuit.

"from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs" - it's Communism. Never happened so far. Socialism is "from each according to his ability and to each according his participation".

Each man a captain of his destiny?! My GrandFather was a son of a willage blacksmith, he retired as an Artillery colonel. Was it possible under your "capitalism"? No. Providing armies and courts?! Are you kidding?! Armies and courts protect the rich against the poor.

USSR was one of the few countries where "social ladder" was available for everyone.

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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2008, 05:32:37 PM »
My GrandFather was a son of a willage blacksmith, he retired as an Artillery colonel. Was it possible under your "capitalism"? No.
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« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2008, 05:45:01 PM »

Each man a captain of his destiny?! My GrandFather was a son of a willage blacksmith, he retired as an Artillery colonel. Was it possible under your "capitalism"? No.

http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/pow0bio-1

One example that comes to mind... :aok

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« Reply #56 on: July 04, 2008, 07:09:23 PM »
http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/pow0bio-1

One example that comes to mind... :aok

Powell is extraordinary. My GrandFather was one of the millions.

Gorby was a tractor driver and got an order of Labour Red Banner for his working achievements when he was 14 years old. It didn't prevent it from becoming a traitor though :(

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« Reply #57 on: July 04, 2008, 07:13:42 PM »
Powell is extraordinary. My GrandFather was one of the millions.

Gorby was a tractor driver and got an order of Labour Red Banner for his working achievements when he was 14 years old. It didn't prevent it from becoming a traitor though :(
Most Americans didn't come from military families either.
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« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2008, 09:19:28 PM »
My GrandFather was a son of a willage blacksmith, he retired as an Artillery colonel.

Some examples from the US come to mind...

1. Seveth child of a carpenter from Milan Ohio, Tom became a founding member of the modern world.

2. Adopted son, Steve dropped out of college after one semester,  backpacked around India in search of spiritual enlightenment, attended some summer lectures with his buddy, Steve, worked for Atari, 2 Steves then started work in their garage and became icons of capitalism.

3. Born on the frontier, mother died when he was 9, father remarried and he was raised with a sister and three step siblings.  Attended school less than a year.  Became a lawyer, a postmaster, a surveyor, member of the state legistature, a member of the US House of Representatives, and 16th President of the USA.

4. born in Hannibal, Missouri as an only child. Bill later moved with his family to Chicago, where he attended school up until the eighth grade. He enlisted in the United States Navy during World War I, serving as a radio operator. He had no formal education past the eighth grade other than the courses which he took in the Navy.  In the 20's he developed the first practical car radio. Invented the 8-track music tape cartridge in 1964, and in 1963, flew his creation; the icon of busness jets. 

 
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Re: American commies are for Obama!
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2008, 03:00:02 AM »
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Who says I'm white? And, if you dont like what us Americans have to say, you can piss off and go to a different BB. My reply wasn't to you directly, I quoted you because it was more anti-American BS.
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