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P51D
« on: July 09, 2008, 04:37:28 PM »
This question was brought up by me in another thread and i did not want to hijack the thread with this but, I wonder why the p51D's  perk value is 8 when its stats are all mostly less then other late war rides . I love the pony fly it well but it took a long time to learn to fly it.I was told it is because it holds a lot of ammo and it can fly long distance.But that cant be the only ression,as in AH flying long distance is not really a plus.Theirs  many planes that have a lot of canon rounds and the pony dont have canon, many planes pick up speed much faster then the pony and way out climb it.Their are also a lot of late war rides that go as fast or faster then the pony below or at 10 k so why is it considered an uber plane by HTC? :salute
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Re: P51D
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 04:51:22 PM »
Because ENY is based also off a plane's usage in the arenas.  Since all noobs think the P-51 is the plane that won the war outturning spitfires, outclimbing 109's and flying as fast as a 262, it gets used... a lot.

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Re: P51D
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 04:55:27 PM »
Because ENY is based also off a plane's usage in the arenas.  Since all noobs think the P-51 is the plane that won the war outturning spitfires, outclimbing 109's and flying as fast as a 262, it gets used... a lot.

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Also, alot of suicide, pork and auger dweebs use it. That not only increases its usage frequency but makes its stats look worse than equivalent planes employed exclusively air to air.
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Re: P51D
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 05:04:09 PM »
Because ENY is based also off a plane's usage in the arenas.  Since all noobs think the P-51 is the plane that won the war outturning spitfires, outclimbing 109's and flying as fast as a 262, it gets used... a lot.

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Well it seems if the usage was the case then the spit and 109 would be like perk 2 lol
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Re: P51D
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 06:05:55 PM »
Well it seems if the usage was the case then the spit and 109 would be like perk 2 lol

The 109 and Spitfire are flown the same amount? :huh

I've always thought the P-51D should have an ENY of 5.  It doesn't have cannons, but the ballistics of the mg's makes aiming easy compared to some other uber rides like the La-7.  It's not the fastest, but how many non-perk rides can out-run it?  At low altitude, I can think of the Typhy, 190D, 109K, and La-7.  What really makes it a great ride is its high-speed handling.  The controls remain light past 450mph IAS.  Lastly, so long as you don't try to fly it like a Spitfire, the 51 retains energy like nothing else.

Then there's ordinance: 6 rockets and 2 1k lb bombs.  If you took away the ordinance then the ENY ought to be higher.
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Re: P51D
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 06:08:44 PM »
Well it seems if the usage was the case then the spit and 109 would be like perk 2 lol

Actually 109's are somewhat  rare compared to other fighters.

These are all fighter kills & deaths added together in 2007, sorted by airframe families:



All 109's together had ~4.5 % of all fighter kills&deaths.
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Re: P51D
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 06:14:22 PM »
Where is the Nikki?
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Re: P51D
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 06:15:23 PM »
Because ENY is based also off a plane's usage in the arenas. 

If so, why does the Hurri IIC has ENY 10 in EW, all while having more than 40% of all fighter kills?  :noid
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Re: P51D
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 06:15:48 PM »
yea saying the 109's may be unfair, only the last month or two it seems like they are all over the place :rolleyes:
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Re: P51D
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 06:17:48 PM »
Where is the Nikki?

"Other fighters", as there's no Nikki airframe family. N1K alone had 6.85%.
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Re: P51D
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2008, 07:34:36 PM »
yea saying the 109's may be unfair, only the last month or two it seems like they are all over the place :rolleyes:

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Re: P51D
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 09:05:04 PM »
P-51 can carry a lot more ordance then most LW birdies. It can tnb okay, not great but it handles it self better then pretty much all 190s, tiffies. It's fast and handle well at high speed, thus great dive bomber/bnzmer. Great cockpit view. Enough ammunition for 10-12 a2a kills easily before winchester. Tons of fuel, that translates to longer air time over enemy area (which pretty much all 190s and 109s, spitties, tiffies, f4us missing.) 8 eny sounds about right =)
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Re: P51D
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2008, 09:08:39 PM »
yea saying the 109's may be unfair, only the last month or two it seems like they are all over the place :rolleyes:

Its because people are finding out why the 109 was so evenly matched with the spitfire.
While yes its harder to see outside the cockpit, and guns stink - it still turns with a spitfire and dances around most LW planes.

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Re: P51D
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2008, 09:14:57 PM »
I think because it's a good all around aircraft. It has a great ord package and enough fuel to hang around and pick your target rather then just dive in and go at it.
It used to have an eny of 5.
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Re: P51D
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2008, 09:25:08 PM »
Lusche ...Where do you get all of this information. You are like the prophet at the top of the mountain.