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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2008, 03:19:34 PM »
In a woman that knows how to fight and masters a weapon like that, there's the same beauty as in 10 tons of well oiled machinery whirring and humming away in speedy purpose, the same elegant beauty as in masters' paintings and sculptures of human form, and it's nothing like sexual attraction.
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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2008, 03:55:09 PM »
In a woman that knows how to fight and masters a weapon like that, there's the same beauty as in 10 tons of well oiled machinery whirring and humming away in speedy purpose, the same elegant beauty as in masters' paintings and sculptures of human form, and it's nothing like sexual attraction.

EXACTLY my point!


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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2008, 04:05:10 PM »
I was raised with firearms and hunting. I started shooting when I was 8yo, started with a bow when I was 7yo. I always preferred hunting and fishing for my food.

I always knew where the old mans guns were. All I had to do was ask him if I wanted to handle them.

It was just never a big deal. You never thought about it. I started my kid off at the same age and he started hunting at 9yo. Nowadays kids are taught guns are evil yet they play violent video games and the entertainment industry soaks them in cheap violence. Criminal gangstas are enabled thru their music......Sometimes this modern society baffles me. It truly baffles me.

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One of my fondest Memories is of my Father and Grandfather telling me on Friday that I will be getting up early (6AM) and I will be going with them Hunting that Saturday.  I was 7 years old.  I was told I would not have a shotgun but I would in the future.  I was to be taught the proper way of handling a Firearm....to respect nature and appreciate the outdoors more then I did already.  My father told me Rusty would take care of me  (our Beagle)    I was taught how to check a firearm,  how to clean it and above all respect it. I was taught by both men when to aim, when to shoot, chamber a round and so forth.   If I did well enough and learned how to properly handle a firearm I would be given my own.

I still remember that Christmas Morning long ago when I woke up......Dad and Grandpa picked up a long package from under the Tree and presented me with a .410 shotgun.  I'll never forget that as long as I live.  I was 8 years old.  That was 50 years ago.  Still brings a smile and sometimes a tear to my eye when I recall that special day.  Not because it was my first gun, but because my Dad and Grandfather cared enough and took the time to teach me to shoot, hunt, fish and enjoy the great outdoors during any Season.  Also taught me responsibilty.

For that I will be forever grateful.   Wonder if they have that for a playstation 3?
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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2008, 04:06:35 PM »
I find very strange for a male adult to be fascinated by a not nubile girl.

I missed that.  I didn't see anyone expressing a sexual interest.

Are you projecting?

Or is this a "English is my second language" mistake?

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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2008, 04:33:39 AM »
I missed that.  I didn't see anyone expressing a sexual interest.

Are you projecting?

Or is this a "English is my second language" mistake?

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It's not a translation error.
 
When I just see a bunch guys fascinated by a young girl doing something she shouldn't be able to do.
I wonder why the are so passionate and the answer is very obvious.

But it's the kind public the moderation of this BBS appreciate and encourage

Like if you are a racist guys ,narrow minded republican from Dixon you can post during years and you won't have a single warning.
 

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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2008, 04:35:08 AM »
In a woman that knows how to fight and masters a weapon like that, there's the same beauty as in 10 tons of well oiled machinery whirring and humming away in speedy purpose, the same elegant beauty as in masters' paintings and sculptures of human form, and it's nothing like sexual attraction.

you should come to some civilized country where aesthetic is not made of stats ,number crushing or horsepower
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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2008, 06:09:10 AM »
Sorry to disagree, but.. I was born and raised in France (if you forgot), and what I learned on my own (and saw confirmation for when I traveled everywhere else) was that reason and beauty were the only truly constant rationales to all things.  Everything else fails to stand the test of time. And beauty is definitely just a latent sense of reason, and where there's reason there's purpose...  Zappa said it really well in a slightly different perspective.
And if I may be completely frank, there's no examplarily civilized country and won't be for a while yet.
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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2008, 06:14:30 AM »
Do you see the same beauty here  ?


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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2008, 06:22:04 AM »
Beauty is everywhere, and if you can understand that perspective, you'll also understand it has nothing to do with circumstances or any childish appeal to emotion.  And you're really loading the comparison.  There's nothing like the girl's character and intentions in that kid, as far as the pic implies and even less in what you seem to imply.  I could really go on a long tear at how wrong you are, but the simplest solution to the problem here is if you simply try and see what I meant, rather than what you want to interpret in what I said.

So far you're wrong on:
1) perceived sexual attractions to that girl flogging a firearm
2) that girl DEFINITELY should be able to do what the heck she wants without some stuck up adult giving her repressive habits
3) Lazs definitely got at least a few warnings
4) again wrong on guessing what beauty I see, specificaly not seeing how the beauty of human form and function is totaly different from some perverted innocence in africa, etc.

Another way to put it would be if I told you I found beauty in the corpse I dissected in pre med. class, and you replied flat out that it's gross and psychotic.. When I was seeing the same beauty as Da Vinci saw and put on paper.  It's really not so far fetched!

Anyway, to answer your question dead-on: No, I don't see the beauty that I'd refered to in the pic you posted above.  But then, you knew that.
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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2008, 08:07:43 AM »
M00t I don't see a difference between the pict I posted and the one starting this thread.

I've the same feeling seeing both ,and it's disgusting.


you know by the way had some moron from dixon or elsewhere not posted the usual "surrender monkey" ,perhaps I will not have made a allusion to paedophilia but when I'm pissed ...

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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2008, 08:27:11 AM »
It's only disgusting to you because in your country you don't have the same appreciation for firearms that we do here in the USA. In this country when you see a young kid able to handle a weapon like that and do so in a safe manner, hear the pride in her fathers voice at her doing a good job at something most kids these days aren't able to do, it's a good thing to see.

A vast MAJORITY of Americans are legal and responsible gun owners. That little girls father is teaching her at an early age to respect and understand her American herritage and her rights as a citizen of THIS country to keep and bear arms and to do so responisbly.

That you find it disgusting, or wrong somehow doesn't really matter. In this country it's a good thing to see and be proud of.

Also there is a HUGE differance in the pic you posted vs the video that started this thread. That little girl didn't have a gun put in her hands and told to go out and kill people. It was put in her hands to learn.

To judge us by your standards is kinda unfair don't you think? Why should we as Americans have to live up to your expectations? You have your culture, we have ours.
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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2008, 08:33:59 AM »
"you know by the way had some moron from dixon or elsewhere not posted the usual "surrender monkey" ,perhaps I will not have made a allusion to paedophilia but when I'm pissed ..."

when you're  pissed..  you become a name calling liar?    I have noticed that about liberals but thanks anyway.

There is no pedophilia that I can see involved here.   It may exist but... you being the one thinking about it the most.. I would say it is you.

As for these threads working you all up and all..  Maybe.. you should stay out of threads where you know nothing about the subject and more importantly...  are unable to control your knee jerk reactions..  and... then get all offended when everyone laughs at you.

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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2008, 08:36:20 AM »
Lazs ,you're my hero.

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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2008, 08:57:38 AM »
anytime I can help....

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Re: A well Regulated Militia
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2008, 08:59:30 AM »
Dammit!!!! There goes another cup of coffee.
Democracy is two wolves deciding on what to eat. Freedom is a well armed sheep protesting the vote.
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