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Offline Getback

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Border Kidnappings
« on: July 15, 2008, 05:45:13 AM »
I've heard on the Glenn Beck show that there has been border kidnappings and Mexican commandos coming over and killing US citizens. Frankly Glenn Beck sounds a little off his rocker to me and I haven't heard anything about it elsewhere. So for you folks near the border have you heard anything about these things?

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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 06:49:04 AM »
I've been noticing alot of commercials on T.V lately from the U.S border patrol looking for people to join up and work as a border guard.  A friend of mine is moving out by the border to start working as a border guard next month, he said the interview wasn't that intense, and that they are really in need of hiring more border guards.  My friend has 2 DUI's on his record, and doesn't even have his drivers license back yet and they still went ahead and hired him, so that should tell you how badly they need more guards.
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 06:50:48 AM »
If they have clearance to fire is the illegals refuse to stop it should all be good. :aok
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 07:17:50 AM »
If they have clearance to fire is the illegals refuse to stop it should all be good. :aok

Yup, I would sign up if this were true.  But I won't sign up knowing that I'll be allowed to do very little.
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 08:16:53 AM »
I agree that Glenn Beck can sound a little tinfoil-hat-ish sometimes.  I listen to his radio show but many times I have to change stations when he goes into one of his rants.

I feel dirty for using worldnetdaily as a source reference, but here you go.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44519

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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 10:46:19 AM »
I didn't listen to anything by Beck so can't comment directly about that. As far as what is in the world news article is concerned, yep business as usual in the last 10 years. The smuggling situation (people and drugs both) has gotten much more violent in the last 2 decades then before. Even in the 80's I was aware of armed smugglers moving North from Mexico East of Tucson. There have been numerous deaths from "coyotes" promising guidance across the desert then abandoning the people after robbing them of what little they had after getting deep into the desert. This has not been a nice bunch of folks there and as long as the border is as porous s it is it will continue. 
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 10:53:50 AM »
I don't listen to Glenn Beck either, but I have heard some pretty bad stuff about Laredo [& that whole area], mostly surrounding drug activity.  Although, I'm sure what I heard was frequent killings, not kidnappings.
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 11:56:01 AM »
Yes there have been military type incursions onto U.S. soil happening for years.  Years before and at least 2 years (that I know of) following 9-11 the Mexican military was known to escort drug shipments across the border.  Now I believe the cartels have trained or hired some guns to do that type of work.  This is all part of the border problem no one hears about and if it is reported the media moves past it quickly.
An old article I know but… 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11226144/

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Mexican soldiers caught inside U.S. boundaries “isn’t a new phenomenon,” said David Aguilar, chief of the U.S. Border Patrol. Although the Mexican military has an “internal policy” that states they won’t operate within about two miles of the U.S., that policy is routinely violated or simply ignored, he said. “We often spot them” near or inside U.S. borders, Aguilar said.

Here’s a question:  What do you call a hostile/aggressive group of individuals who are trained in military tactics, carrying military issue weapons and explosives that cross a countries border without consent?
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 11:59:30 AM »
Yes there have been military type incursions onto U.S. soil happening for years.  Years before and at least 2 years (that I know of) following 9-11 the Mexican military was known to escort drug shipments across the border.  Now I believe the cartels have trained or hired some guns to do that type of work.  This is all part of the border problem no one hears about and if it is reported the media moves past it quickly.
An old article I know but… 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11226144/

Here’s a question:  What do you call a hostile/aggressive group of individuals who are trained in military tactics, carrying military issue weapons and explosives that cross a countries border without consent?


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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 12:02:43 PM »
I always tend to take what Glenn Beck says with a grain of skepticism, although I agree with most of his platform.

Like today he said that the taliban attack over the weekend that killed 9 soldiers involved 500 taliban and 250 of them were killed.  I can find no source that puts the number of taliban involved over 200.

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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 12:03:09 PM »
Here’s a question:  What do you call a hostile/aggressive group of individuals who are trained in military tactics, carrying military issue weapons and explosives that cross a countries border without consent?


Praerie dogs?

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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 12:05:28 PM »
Target practice.

Too bad that’s not the case.  There was a young Marine who was patrolling the border and came under fire from a Mexican “sheepherder”.  The “sheepherder” missed but the Marine did not and then they tried to press charges on him.  Was a while ago and can’t remember the details… I will see if I can find some.
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 12:09:02 PM »
Praerie dogs?

Lol.  When I was young my father (Air Force) would refer to the buzzards we saw on the side of the road as the Mexican Air Force.  I never got it until I was older. :D
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 02:30:28 PM »
This kind of thing is what I’ve heard about for years.  http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8FBOSCO3&show_article=1
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After the newspaper reported on Mexican military crossings earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the report was overblown and most of the incursions were just mistakes.
  - oh yeah they got lost and just happened to drop a few hundred pounds of dope in America…what joke

This link is for an article from 89’.  I don’t remember reading the story before and it doesn’t tell about any Mexican military on U.S. soil but it is interesting.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DEEDE103AF935A25751C1A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

we have played tag with these jokers so long it has created a much larger problem.  Now it won’t be stopped without some serious action which most likely will require violence and we all know that won’t happen…
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Re: Border Kidnappings
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2008, 02:31:32 PM »
Target practice.

for target practice the target alone is not enough. You need a shooter as well