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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2008, 07:34:41 PM »
I thought assertion of state and local rights were core conservative values?

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2008, 07:43:32 PM »
I thought assertion of state and local rights were core conservative values?

Sorry, it was state law prohibiting gay marriage that San Franciso (and the rest of the state) threw out. They don't get to have it both ways. Then again, maybe they do, for a while.
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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2008, 07:48:38 PM »
I thought assertion of state and local rights were core conservative values?

they are, but you see.. it's all or nothing. We either screw the feds with ALL their laws, or we obey them all.

You can't pick and choose.

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2008, 07:49:05 PM »
I guess I didn't understand the "leech" comment then.

In this case it's those who enjoy freedom but out of ignorance or stupidity do nothing to perpetuate it themselves. Janice Joplin didn't have a clue. Freedom defintely is not free.
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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2008, 07:52:57 PM »
I don't see the problem.  Shouldn't the "Federales" be guarding the border?  Why should a local municipality have to perform border patrol duties?

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2008, 07:53:14 PM »
In this case it's those who enjoy freedom but out of ignorance or stupidity do nothing to perpetuate it themselves. Janice Joplin didn't have a clue. Freedom defintely is not free.

San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2008, 07:55:23 PM »
San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.

Some Kalifornians are illegally imposing their will on the rest. Sounds more like a dictatorship than a democracy to me.
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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2008, 08:00:18 PM »
I also sen e-mails regularly to my state and national congressman.  Not that they ever read them.

Precicely why I choose not to pay much attention or worry too much about these things.. More often than not, one person's voice of sense and reason dosn't hold much weight when competing against the masses or politicians that don't give a damn..


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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2008, 08:07:06 PM »
San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.


Unjust laws? Care to elaborate?


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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2008, 08:09:14 PM »
She should sue the bastards (Newsom and the rest of the city supervisors) personally. After all they are committing a fed crime.


If they are allowed to pick and choose which laws they like and obey, and which ones they don't, I and everybody else should be allowed this "right" as well.

This is madness.

But don't you see the obvious retort they will have?

they will assure to only keep "the good ones"



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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2008, 08:18:53 PM »
San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.

well if the city feels that way they can give back all the federal funds given to them by the corrupt empire.  If they don't wish to pay any more federal taxes they can fix their own highways and bridges.  There schools can teach whatever they want with out federal funds. 

San Franscisco isn't perpetuating freedom at all. 

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2008, 10:21:39 PM »
They disagree with a law, and they have a right to protest.  I'm cool with that.  Yet even i think it's bs for the city to pick and choose like that - Keep in mind I'm so left I'm practically the mutant spawn of Che Guevera and Caesar Chavez.

On the flip side... As an allied health provider i completely support the idea of not reporting illegals seeking health care, etc.  I do this for two reasons, 1) I don't think people should suffer, and 2) Doing so only causes serious injury and increases health care expenditures down the road, because folks will avoid getting help when something is relatively  easy to treat for fear of deportation and wait till they get so sick that it becomes a catastrophic illness/expense that tax payers and insurance subscribers will end up covering later on anyway.

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2008, 10:23:55 PM »
...On the flip side... As an allied health provider i completely support the idea of not reporting illegals seeking health care, etc.

What about seeking care of a gunshot wound?

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2008, 10:39:31 PM »
I'm sure the feds can put pressure on San Fran's mayor to get him to change his mind about flaunting the law simply because he doesn't agree with it.

But will they?
Do they have the will to do so?

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Re: San Francisco thumbs nose at federal laws
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2008, 01:44:54 AM »
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Ehh.... Let San Francisco have all the illegals.... They can give them welfare with the states or city's tax dollars and they can cause 90% of the crime there....  :rolleyes:
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