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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2008, 06:31:51 PM »
Hey Zazen nice write ups on set ups on the AOM site Btw. Easily worth it's weight in gold or turtles :)

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2008, 06:37:13 PM »
Killing an engaged opponent. Usually requires that the opponent fly like a "CHERRY" (noob...not paying attention...zero SA). Damaged or landing planes would qualify as vultches and not cherry picks. The latest one I've heard is a guy that does the Gang Rope (1 high guy vs 2 or more low guys) is a cherry picker. Not so, sometimes I think noobs simply make up definitions for terms they hear. I had one weenie complain that I ho'ed him when every shot was inside his 5 to 7 o'clock arc.  :rofl

Some LTAR tried to claim that I was picking him a long time ago.  I'd let him up, get some alt, climb out of ack, and promptly kill him 1v1 repeatedly.

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2008, 06:52:37 PM »

One to three guys doing this are going to be shot up by the ack or run low on fuel/ammo before you can replane and bring in a coalt fighter...

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I must be mistaken, its never really happened many many times. ( till i learned my lesson that is)
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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2008, 07:19:07 PM »
Hey Zazen nice write ups on set ups on the AOM site Btw. Easily worth it's weight in gold or turtles :)

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2008, 07:21:31 PM »
The latest one I've heard is a guy that does the Gang Rope (1 high guy vs 2 or more low guys) is a cherry picker. Not so, sometimes I think noobs simply make up definitions for terms they hear. I had one weenie complain that I ho'ed him when every shot was inside his 5 to 7 o'clock arc.  :rofl

I heard a variation of that from drdeathx last week in the MW.  He was the higher bogie, dives to the deck to gain the energy advantage and then zooms into the vertical while all the while I stayed at my alt and then just zoomed up into the vertical as he started his zoom climb.  I ended up roping him and was called a "no skill picker".  


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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2008, 07:24:14 PM »
Killing an engaged opponent. Usually requires that the opponent fly like a "CHERRY" (noob...not paying attention...zero SA).

That is incredibly true. I can't count the millions of times I've said this in-game. As an example I can count on one hand the number of times I have truly cherry picked Leviathan (+Dead in AW), which is saying a lot as I've flown with him 15+ years that I know of and go out of my way to find and film him. He has fabulous SA. There's probably a few dozen people that play AH right now that are nearly impossible to cherry pick by virtue of their outstanding SA.
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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 07:29:08 PM »
If you get cherry pick, you probably messed up on SA some how ! like allow yourself to get into a bad situation either on purpose or not. I know when i take my hurricane into a 1 vs 5 I'd probalby get cherry pick and love it !
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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2008, 07:31:53 PM »
The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the fruit is in such good condition. :D

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2008, 08:12:35 PM »
Ack-Ack...

Yeah, sounds like another vocabulary challenged noob.  :D

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Yep, I've cherried Levi once or twice myself. It's about the only way I EVER flippin' got him! :rofl

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2008, 08:54:57 PM »
if it's 1 v 1 I'll ask if he needs a hand
if it's 2 v 1 I'll ask if they need a hand

if 2 greens can't kill 1 red they deserve what they get

if I see a conga line behind one green I'll dive in, try to disrupt, and hope to the AH Gods I just saved someone worth saving

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2008, 12:49:28 AM »

Player is not being engaged or engaging someone else

Furballs: I do not believe there isn't any such thing as a pick in furballs unless it is completely one-sided


there are usually 20 + planes in a furball, well the good ones anyway, then there the real air 2 air combat pilots who hover above the furball and make passes at random planes ALREADY ENGAGED. ;)

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2008, 01:03:27 AM »
there are usually 20 + planes in a furball, well the good ones anyway, then there the real air 2 air combat pilots who hover above the furball and make passes at random planes ALREADY ENGAGED. ;)

You are misunderstanding the modern definition of "furball". A Furball is a large, chaotic engagement, with many planes operating in loose coordination over a relatively finite space. Furballs are three-dimensional, they tend to look like a tornado that starts out wider at the top with a skinny rope, as it matures the rope thickens and the top shrinks. There's a definite periphery on the horizontal plane at low alt. There's planes that have exhausted their E at the bottom stallfighting, there's people fighting more vertically in the middle alts and there's those in the next higher strata who have not yet spent their E and are waiting to strike. Furballs have ebbs and flows at the various strata as killing expends E. Planes once occupying the top strata halfway through a mission with 5 kills may find himself down in the weeds trying to fight his way through the periphery to return to base. A furball is a complex organism, it is not 2 or more Spits playing stall horn grab-ass on the deck...
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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2008, 06:18:16 AM »
Well said Zazen!

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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2008, 06:39:07 AM »
If you ran away from a 1 on 1 then come back in to fight, that is a pick. If you just happen to be on the side with more aircraft in the furball, thats oppertunity. If you are willing to fight 1 on 1 you deserve your fair share of picks. If all you do is pick, and you consider this a skill, you are infact a huge no skill cherry picking dweeb.  :aok
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Re: Picking: Definition
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2008, 11:47:52 AM »
it is just another whine people use when they get owned proper.  Disregard the smack.
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