Picking: Definition

[Chalenge]

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,241877.0.html page #3 post #8

"A fixated pilot will get 'picked' every time. He has allowed his SA to drop and the price is death."

I have been accused of picking even after the man I was to kill gave up chasing me and switched targets. He was busy fixating on someone else I guess.

[mechanic]

I have been accused of picking even after the man I was to kill gave up chasing me.. [snip]

well....er......nevermind. 

[bongaroo]

I really only get ticked when I'm working an enemy and some friendly schmo cuts me off with no warning.

"picking" my target I've worked on.

jerks.

(unless I do this to a squadie, than its funny.  especially if they kill shoot themselves  )

[Steve]

I have been accused of picking even after the man I was to kill gave up chasing me

well....er......nevermind. 

Heheheh no kiddin

[Chalenge]

Well I was trying to relate someone following me while extending for a reversal or gaining alt for a better advantage the target doesnt have the patience to stick with you and reverses only to get killed and then complains about getting picked. Writing isnt my strong suit just trying to help.

[MachNum]

if I see a conga line behind one green I'll dive in, try to disrupt, and hope to the AH Gods I just saved someone worth saving

I'll say. There are few things more frustrating than swooping in on a fellow green and cleaning 3 or 4 baddies off (which I love doing, even if I don't get a kill) and have him immediately reverse back into the fight. It's like, , didn't you want some alt or speed or something before you went back in there.

On another topic, what do you call it when one of your countrymen swoops into your gunsite just as you take the shot?
Would that be self cherry picking?

[mechanic]

was just picking out a sentance that suited me and poking a bit of fun chalenge S!

[Zazen13]

I'll say. There are few things more frustrating than swooping in on a fellow green and cleaning 3 or 4 baddies off (which I love doing, even if I don't get a kill) and have him immediately reverse back into the fight. It's like, , didn't you want some alt or speed or something before you went back in there.

This is a huge pet-peave of mine. I've learned over time with experience to always say something like, "Joeblow, I am coming to clear those guys off of you...",
"...wiggle a bit to keep them interested until I get there, then keep on trucking!".

If someone blows significant E and/or Alt to save your bacon at least have the courtesy to not put your bacon back in the frying pan. The only exception to this would be if there were only 1 or 2 guys on him and the guy you saved is in a reasonably good turner, then definitely, if he's game, let's eat 'em. If he's in a poor turner however, probably not even then, because reversing 180 degrees to engage on the deck is E you can't afford to spend and can't make up for by pulling for angles like you could in a turner. By saving that E,  if the guys you shook off continue to pursue with enough separation you could possibly setup a rolling drag n' bag if the mood strikes you.

[Steve]

Personally I hate what I call "base baiters"

You'll have anywhere from 1-3 guys who will fly over base(obviously making it flash)

They have absolutely no intention of taking the base, nor the means to do so.

I do this almost every night. I fly for the team with the lowest numbers and I try to find a friendly base that is getting swarmed. I then fly alone to the source of the horde(typically the closest enemy base) and rain on their vulch parade. You'd be surprised how one guy can clog up the vulch conveyer by loitering over the horde's home hive.

I'm a base baiter, big time.  Hate me.   

[Zazen13]

I do this almost every night. I fly for the team with the lowest numbers and I try to find a friendly base that is getting swarmed. I then fly alone to the source of the horde(typically the closest enemy base) and rain on their vulch parade. You'd be surprised how one guy can clog up the vulch conveyer by loitering over the horde's home hive.

I'm a base baiter, big time.  Hate me.   

Yup, that's a very effective tactic. It was used alot in indirect co-ordination with a land based offensive or an amphibious assualt in WWII. It's called Interdiction....Base Baiter works too I suppose although I've never heard that term used to describe it before...

in·ter·dict 
Pronunciation: \ˌin-tər-ˈdikt\
Function: transitive verb
Date: 15th century

1. to destroy, damage, or cut off (as an enemy line of supply) by firepower to stop or hamper an enemy

The purpose of air interdiction is to delay, disrupt, or destroy enemy forces or supplies en route to the battle area before they do any harm against friendly forces. - (Wikipedia quote)

[FALCONWING]

I do this almost every night. I fly for the team with the lowest numbers and I try to find a friendly base that is getting swarmed. I then fly alone to the source of the horde(typically the closest enemy base) and rain on their vulch parade. You'd be surprised how one guy can clog up the vulch conveyer by loitering over the horde's home hive.

I'm a base baiter, big time.  Hate me.   

why does common sense suggest that that is not the situation he is referring to???

Bah..my bad for introducing common sense into this conversation...

Please continue with explanations of "How I Justify the Methods I Use to get Kills"  And yes...typically guys who are intent on taking a base are fairly easy trgts for light fiters who dont care whether or not the base actually falls...that should be a good tip noted by all.  Has to do with weapons load, fuel load etc...  It sounds like you are in fact a MASTER BAI....erm nevermind...you get the point

[Mak333]

Stealing a kill from a friendly can be a touchy topic indeed.  However, I would like to add one thing.  If there are 1+ friendlies on a con and have had a chance or two to take them down, I think that anyone has the right to swoop in and grab the kill, especially if there is risk of a countryman or your own base taking damage.

[Steve]

why does common sense suggest that that is not the situation he is referring to???

Bah..my bad for introducing common sense into this conversation...

Please continue with explanations of "How I Justify the Methods I Use to get Kills"  And yes...typically guys who are intent on taking a base are fairly easy trgts for light fiters who dont care whether or not the base actually falls...that should be a good tip noted by all.  Has to do with weapons load, fuel load etc...  It sounds like you are in fact a MASTER BAI....erm nevermind...you get the point

Mmm, I'm not a guy who feels the need to justify my methods but thanks for playing. I have fun.  I prefer to get along but I understand a few turds like you will float up in the bowl now and then.  No doubt you get all your kills 1v1 or worse and you are always low, far away from your base or help.  WTG, you're a much better stick than I. Like I said,   I have fun.  

The only point I got is that you felt a compulsion to insult me and couldn't control yourself.

[1Boner]

I do this almost every night. I fly for the team with the lowest numbers and I try to find a friendly base that is getting swarmed. I then fly alone to the source of the horde(typically the closest enemy base) and rain on their vulch parade. You'd be surprised how one guy can clog up the vulch conveyer by loitering over the horde's home hive.

I'm a base baiter, big time.  Hate me.   

While I salute you for fighting  for the team with the lowest numbers, I think you missed "my" meaning of "base baiting".

While scanning the map, I will find a base flashing.

Base will usually have no radar or ack. Its been prepared.

So I up, only to find a couple runstangs or 190s circling high above the base waiting for someone to "up".

Well, lotsa luck trying to get up to fight.

These score dweebs will not let you up to "fight".

While I will applaud there ingenuity, I also despise this type of play.

I've learned that the easy way to break up there little score fest,is to come in at co-alt from a nearby base.

Without fail the "runstangs" live up to their well deserved nickname.

And the funniest part of it all is that for the most part, i find that these are the same guys you will see on these BBs carrying on about "the fight".

What a joke.

But its their 15 smackers, they can fly anyway they want,while complaining about guys who like to take bases.

That type of flying is what I call "picking".

[Zazen13]

The only point I got is that you felt a compulsion to insult me and couldn't control yourself.

Try not to take it to personally Steve, he tries to do it to everyone...Every BBS needs a poo slinging "thread stalker" I suppose...