Water found on Mars

[Slamfire]

Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiii iiid

YOU BLABBED QUAAAAAID !!!!  WHY'D YA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT MARS ???!?!?!!?

[Chalenge]

The mars-jupiter belt is less than the moon in mass, I think (yep 4-5% of the Moon).. Not to say there isn't a huge amount of resources within jupiter's orbit..

Sorry I wrote that wrong. There is more material there then we will ever mine here on earth by a factor of ten. I think I wrote it right that time! Could be good stuff could be worthless rock and ice.

[Angus]

He3 is also on the moon, or am I mixing it up with something else?

[Yeager]

Feed the babies
Who dont have enough to eat
Shoe the children
With no shoes on their feet
House the people
Livin in the street
Oh, oh, theres a solution

Do you think that stuff about geesus feeding 10,ooo people at the sermon with a loaf of bred and a dead fish was true?

[moot]

He3 is also on the moon, or am I mixing it up with something else?

It's supposed to be..  A guy called Bill Stone is set to lead the way to Shackleton crater on the moon, plans to go there without the return fuel to save weight/trade it for more eqpt., and mine it himself for the return trip and to jumpstart the industry.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,242780.msg2958786.html#msg2958786
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/bill_stone_explores_the_earth_and_space.html
etc

Sorry I wrote that wrong. There is more material there then we will ever mine here on earth by a factor of ten. I think I wrote it right that time! Could be good stuff could be worthless rock and ice.

IIRC even an average rock would provide really big amounts of resources.

[Dowding]

Keep Mars red!!!!!!!!!! Say no to terraforming.

Anyone read the Kim Stanley Robinson novels? Really enjoyed them - had a sense of reality about them unlike most sci-fi. No doubt we would screw up Mars if we ever got there just like in his vision.

[Nilsen]

Deuterium is what im interested in. If its on mars I say we farm it.

[croduh]

Water is not the only thing on mars i tell ya.Don't mess with mars

[CAP1]

The shame is that NASA will continue to spend every resource (men & money) on Mars instead of what it should be doing. I cant wait until private industries begin to do profit driven missions to space and we reap many many more benefits than NASA will ever give us. Making Mars suitable for humans will take 10,000 years.

what should nasa be doing?

[Ripsnort]

Seriously though, who in their right mind would WANT to live on Mars?

That's almost insane as wanting to live in Nevada!

[dkff49]

I have had a question ever since I heard about this terra-forming idea. Isn't there more problems with getting life to thrive on Mars than just the atmosphere?

From what I have heard the core is solid, no molten material or solid iron core to produce the protective magnetic field that the Earth has. Without that wouldn't the radiation from the Sun fry anything that even attempted to grow?

I also have heard that with the lower gravity there maintaining keeping a decent atmosphere there would not be likely and the planet would loose alot of it into space.

I know there are alot of very highly educated people who have put thought into these ideas and they must have considered these problems. I just wondered what their answers were to the above problems.

I am not real sure about the atmosphere question but the absence of the magnetic field is a major problem.

[FiLtH]

    Well wtg Mr. Wizard....ruin the fantasy for me.

[dkff49]

    Well wtg Mr. Wizard....ruin the fantasy for me.

if you were referring to me, I am sorry but I have seen a alot of programs on television and articles written where scientist have stated that there are possibilities for terra-forming. None of them ever discuss these things though. I actually were wondering if anybody had any answers to those questions.

[Denholm]

So, a small piece of water now allows NASA to drain another few trillion tax dollars just to lose three machines in the process due to, "mechanical failures."

Way to go! Keep looking for nothing.

[Nilsen]

Terraforming mars would cost alot. I belive the pricetag for level one terraforming is 50.000 metal and 100.000 deuteriuim units. But thats not all. You must have 1000 units of energy from either solar sats, fusion reactors or solar plants. To get those you need robotic factories, shipyards and mines.

Its a massive project