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Offline vorticon

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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #210 on: August 09, 2008, 11:32:56 PM »
(Grin),
It was Kinda "tongue in cheek",  the remark is mostly due to the losses a conventional ICE suffers in converting the engine output to actual movement.  As a comparison, my Mercury comethas a 100 hp engine and weighs in at around 1800-2200 lb does 0 to 75 mph in around 25 seconds a Doble steam car with a 35 hp engine and weighing in at about 5200 lb accelerated 0-75 mph in 14 seconds. ICEs produce their best Hp at a very limited range of rpms, where a steam (or electric) power plant produce 100% torque at 0 rpms and maintain the Hp all the way up to the top end of the rpms of the power plant.

(Grin) Of course my other ride, is a two cylinder model and produces 5,485 Hp (it can pull a trailer weighing in at 15,900,000 lbs)

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looking forward to seeing how your truck works out.

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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2008, 12:28:16 PM »
Thanks

It will be a slow progress, the funding comes from what I can snatch out of the pot before we pay for college for the two youngest kids.  I was going to do a cabin motorcycle as the prototype, but the trucks just sitting there with a blown engine, and it has all the other subsystems already in place (brakes, lights, steering system, etc.)

The timeline looks something like this,

Complete Lamont generator

Buy or build steam engine

Begin installation.

At the amount of money I can afford to put in, it looks like a year or so.  However I will post pictures as I go along.



And remember, it runs on water ( :D)

Regards,
Kevin


:D

looking forward to seeing how your truck works out.
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #212 on: August 10, 2008, 06:18:42 PM »
What will you be using to heat the water?
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #213 on: August 10, 2008, 07:17:48 PM »
Any thing that burns,

I have a burner plan that has an adjustable orifice that allows me to burn anything liquid that will maintain fire.  That means anything from french fry oil to 250 octane gasoline.  Also I have plans for a screw feed with a basket that will allow me to burn wood pellets, or even coal dust or coal chunks.  You might be able to say that I'll have a real multi-fueling engine.  With external combustion all I really need is heat, I suppose that if I could figure out how to point the mirrors into the combustion chamber I could even use solar power.

Jay Leno says that his Doble E gets about 45 miles to the gallon burning gasoline.

But really my real motivation is the five giant steam whistle on any use to scare somebody out of their wits. :devil

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Kevin





What will you be using to heat the water?
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #214 on: August 10, 2008, 08:34:18 PM »
steam power rules.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02OIN1_Dgow

had me rolling and kicking laughing.  :rofl

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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #215 on: August 11, 2008, 12:42:37 AM »
this link has a period view of the Doble system


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEv_M7p4fA&feature=related


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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #216 on: August 26, 2008, 02:39:34 PM »
OK here is an update. I got my booster installed early last week finally. EFIE is hooked up, calibrated and set, and I've been running the system every time I drive my truck. I filled it up today while at lunch and the results were pretty good. I can probably tweak it a little better but here is the data I've gotten.

Prior to install my six month MPG average for routine driving was 11.6 MPG  I would get roughly 250 miles from a tank of gas and the average gas purchase over the six month period was 21 gallons to fill the tank. I would wait until the "your almost out of gas dummy" light would come on before filling up. I topped off the tank and reset my trip meter right after I installed the booster.

When I filled it up today it took 20.8 gallons of gas and the trip meter was showing 349. That's 16.7 MPG!!!!! A 5 MPG increase on my first tank of gas using the booster is pretty good.

I'm currently drawing 11amps cold and it hasn't gone over 14amps yet since my longest drive has only been about 30 minutes and the electrolite solution isn't as strong as it could be. I'm not going to mess with anything untill after I fill up again and see if it stays were it's at right now, but so far so good. I think with a stronger electrolite solution and a little more tweaking on the EFIE I should be able to get it over 20 mpg soon. I haven't changed my driving habits and I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary as far as how the truck runs other than the sound coming from the pipes seems a bit louder. The power seems to be the same.

Anyway I'm going to run it for anouther month or so then take it back over to the dyno and see what that tells me compared to the run I had done last month.
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #217 on: August 26, 2008, 02:41:41 PM »
I changed my driving habits and have achieved a 38% increase in efficiency.

The only way to test without driving habits or environmental factors weighing in is to run it on a dyno. 

Run a scientific test and then get back to us.
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #218 on: August 28, 2008, 02:14:48 PM »

                                     I have more faith in the Air-Engine.

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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #219 on: August 28, 2008, 02:20:20 PM »
I changed my driving habits and have achieved a 38% increase in efficiency.

The only way to test without driving habits or environmental factors weighing in is to run it on a dyno. 

Run a scientific test and then get back to us.

Did you even read the last sentance in my post?
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #220 on: August 28, 2008, 02:24:14 PM »
did you happen to check your compression before? and after.  check sparksplugs after awhile and see if plugs are getting fouled

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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #221 on: August 28, 2008, 02:30:27 PM »
They checked all that when I had the before install dyno test.
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #222 on: August 28, 2008, 02:43:05 PM »
Did you even read the last sentance in my post?


aawww nowwww, c'mon hornet,

we already established that the extra money in your wallet does not count as proof that this works :D
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #223 on: August 28, 2008, 02:44:40 PM »
did you happen to check your compression before? and after.  check sparksplugs after awhile and see if plugs are getting fouled

if he does a normal compression test, nothing will change. maybe he will see a change in a running compression test.

 most v8's average around 50-75psi running, and 125 to 150psi cranking.
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Re: Run your car on water??????
« Reply #224 on: August 28, 2008, 03:11:15 PM »
well I havent read the entire thread, yet, but I'm just curious about how this modification affects the other engine components.  I would think that adding something to the combustion chamber would increase pressure to some degree.  How does this mod affect pistons, rings, cylinders, valve guides and seals, gaskets, sparkplugs, EGR valves, etc.    Damage would not necessarily show right away either but may take months to show up. 

I'm interest and will read up more but I would like to see long term results too
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