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Offline crockett

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AH vs real WW2
« on: August 09, 2008, 12:26:30 PM »
Obviously the idea behind this game is to allow us to think we would be a top ace in WW2, however how do you think some of the top sticks here in AH would have done in real aircraft in WW2?

When I say top sticks I don't mean score tards on the front page, I mean the guys that are actually good and know what they are doing. Granted there is no way this game or any game can really recreate the actual flying characteristics of a real fighter but with the thousands of hours some have logged over the years, that would have to help quite a bit.

When you figure most pilots at the end of the war were under trained and lacked experience, especially those on the Axis side. It just makes me wonder how close the skill sets of some of the top sticks here in AH, would compare to real WW2 sticks. This is ofcourse assuming they went through the same training as the WW2 pilots did.

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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 12:30:19 PM »
Well, in RL, stick ROCKY in his P-38, he woulda pwnd so many germans/japs!  :rock

And Bipolar lol... stick em in like any aircraft, he would pwn the germans/japs :rock


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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 12:30:48 PM »
Two completly different things.  Flying an airplane under those circumstances cannot be compared to what we do here.  And on top of that, throw in all the factors of g forces and that that was for real.  Know many pilots who can't fly sims and many sim guys who couldn't be pilots.
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 12:32:08 PM »
Two completly different things.  Flying an airplane under those circumstances cannot be compared to what we do here.  And on top of that, throw in all the factors of g forces and that that was for real.  Know many pilots who can't fly sims and many sim guys who couldn't be pilots.

accually, you would b supprised how many ppl that fly in AH are real pilots that accually fly aircraft

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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2008, 12:33:52 PM »
Not to offend anyone, but they would fly just like any young kid out of flight school, ah doesn't require you to learn manual navigation, engine control, plane control, maybe acm wise. But hey stick an ah ace in a 109 at night over germany and see how he fares.  ;)
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2008, 12:34:54 PM »
Two completly different things.  Flying an airplane under those circumstances cannot be compared to what we do here.  And on top of that, throw in all the factors of g forces and that that was for real.  Know many pilots who can't fly sims and many sim guys who couldn't be pilots.
                   ... Then there are the guys who ARE pilots in this game.
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2008, 12:35:53 PM »
                   ... Then there are the guys who ARE pilots in this game.
A cessna can't preform 1/8th of the acms I use. Theres a difference.
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2008, 12:40:19 PM »
I am in complete agreement with avionix.  There are many factors to be had in real life we don't have to deal with in AH.  Just in the plane itself, how many here could manage the engine properly, know what all the buttons and switches in the craft they fly do, and know the limits on the aircraft according to the manual?  There are more, but getting outside of the aircraft itself, just looking around would be hard.  Looking around flying straight and level, that's easy enough, but try pulling hard Gs and getting your head pushed back into the seat, now try looking around.  

Then there is the air itself, in the real world you have to deal with wind, turbulence, temperature of the air, prop wash from other aircraft, the list goes on.  

Of course, there is a mental problem here too.  In the real world, you actually die, and that can get to people, and act differently under that pressure.  Also, in AH good sticks are very aggressive, and if they make a mistake, so what?  You don't really die.  Real world doesn't work like that,  I'm not sure how many people would want to try and ride that stall or try and see if they have just enough E to drag the baddie vert and make him stall before they do, based on their AH experience.

There are many more factors that would cause all of our elite aces to quickly falter in the real deal.  

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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 12:40:58 PM »
Much would depend also on their eye sight, physical condition fear of death and ability to keep what they've eaten in their bellies :)

I think the younger, good physics guys with a more sensible/timid style might do well. Then again, they may be serving in some air force already.
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2008, 12:42:03 PM »
Much would depend also on their eye sight, physical condition fear of death and ability to keep what they've eaten in their bellies :)
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2008, 12:54:38 PM »
I agree with Mensa on this. There are too many factors in real life that we don't deal with here.
Engine management,proper pitch settings and the like. I have been in several real aircraft doing some of the ACM we attempt here and it is definitely a different animal. Some of us here would not like flying after a wicked stall spin.
Then there is the reason some new pilots in WWII didn't even survive taking off on their first combat mission.
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2008, 12:57:13 PM »
accually, you would b supprised how many ppl that fly in AH are real pilots that accually fly aircraft

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Yea, but whom of them were flying combat missions that could actually chime in on this post?
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2008, 01:05:31 PM »
assuming they went through the same training as any other first time pilot in ww2, they might stand a better chance of surviving more than a month than others...then again, they might kill themselves trying to do something fancy.

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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2008, 01:06:11 PM »
I suspect that in WWII most of the guys that 'pwn' in AHII would be pencil pushing ensigns/lieutenants in the 'rear area' after abysmal failure in pilot training.
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Re: AH vs real WW2
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2008, 01:09:04 PM »
assuming they went through the same training as any other first time pilot in ww2, they might stand a better chance of surviving more than a month than others...then again, they might kill themselves trying to do something fancy.
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