NRA tagged spying against anti-gun groups

[Jackal1]

I wouldn't like to be a part of an organization that feels the need to be underhanded in their dealings either.

LMAO

Are you part of mankind?

[bongaroo]

How about an organization determined to overthrow the US Constitution?

Last I checked it didn't say anything about keeping the guns out of kids (unsupervised that is, I learned to shoot when I was 12 or 13) and criminals hands?  I'm not for more gun control.  Simply for better enforcement of the rules already in place.  Aparently thats still too much to ask from some.

[AKIron]

Last I checked it didn't say anything about keeping the guns out of kids (unsupervised that is, I learned to shoot when I was 12 or 13) and criminals hands?  I'm not for more gun control.  Simply for better enforcement of the rules already in place.  Aparently thats still too much to ask from some.

I was talking about the democratic party.

[bongaroo]

I was talking about the democratic party.

And our current president isn't moving us closer to a police state?  Wire tapping, declaring anyone an enemy of the state, etc etc???

[AKIron]

And our current president isn't moving us closer to a police state?  Wire tapping, declaring anyone an enemy of the state, etc etc???

News flash for you, it was the democrat controlled congress that passed the most recent intrusion into your privacy. No longer do the democrats have the right to cry wolf on this issue.

[Chalenge]

Last I checked it didn't say anything about keeping the guns out of kids (unsupervised that is, I learned to shoot when I was 12 or 13) and criminals hands?  I'm not for more gun control.  Simply for better enforcement of the rules already in place.  Aparently thats still too much to ask from some.

It shouldnt have to say it. By according everyone the same rights we are all granted the same protections. Removing rights from even a single person or bestowing special rights on even a single person erodes the freedoms of all others. Thats why it is so important to maintain strength in all branches of our government but still limit the size of the government overall.

[bongaroo]

Ummm...Duh.  Thats why I'm so upset.  I haven't once said YEAH DEMOCRATS! have I?  You trolls sure are touchy, huh?   

[AKIron]

Ummm...Duh.  Thats why I'm so upset.  I haven't once said YEAH DEMOCRATS! have I?  You trolls sure are touchy, huh?   

Your posts obviously put you out in left field. Not all those to the left are democrats not are all democrats to the left. However most are and I'm willing to bet you support Obama for prez which would make you a democrat.

[bongaroo]

WRONG!   


GO RON PAUL!

And yes I do lean left, but I don't think of myself as being too far off center.  Some guys on here scare me how far out to the right they go and think of themselves as the norm.

And further, your insinuations that a vote for Obama somehow makes a person less of a person is somewhat disturbing.  I'd like to think we could keep talking this out civilly but I've learned my lesson about thinking we'll get many of those here in the O'Club.

::Back to your regularly scheduled topic::

[lazs2]

bongaroo.. I have noticed that none of you lefty socialists think you are TOOOOO far left..   Just reasonable guys who want...  change..  everyone will get along and agree or they will be killed or incarcerated..

For their own good of course.   

Osamabama is dangerous for our rights.  People who vote for him are dangerous to people who are individualists and.. yes.. libertarians.  Libertarian is not just about letting you smoke pot.

lazs

[angelsandair]

Ron Paul is an idiot. I read a pamplet in Austin during a speech during 1 weekend, the guy is a nutt. He wanted to take away all welfare (which I support), secure our borders, BUT get rid of our military COMPLETELY. 

Seems like every + I saw in him came with a -

[Mojava]

 Lazs, I believe you'll find that your christian conservative right has inhibited your freedoms a whole lot more than the left ever has.  Obama is  exactly what this country needs.  It's about time we wise up and use our brains instead of our brawn. 

just reasonable guys who want...  change..  everyone will get along and agree or they will be killed or incarcerated..

 That's a whole lot of drama!

[bongaroo]

bongaroo.. I have noticed that none of you lefty socialists think you are TOOOOO far left..   Just reasonable guys who want...  change..  everyone will get along and agree or they will be killed or incarcerated..

For their own good of course.   

Osamabama is dangerous for our rights.  People who vote for him are dangerous to people who are individualists and.. yes.. libertarians.  Libertarian is not just about letting you smoke pot.

lazs

And the people who voted Bush in a second time didn't mind throwing our rights down the crapper in the name of "security".

Oh holy crap!  You assume I'm a libertarian just because I am for legalization???  Wow.  I mean, your post is pretty useless to the conversation but thanks for typing my forum name correctly once, that made me smile.

[lazs2]

neither of you is saying much.   What "change" is osamabama gonna give us that I need?   I need less taxes and less government.   Republicans promise it but don't deliver.. they still beat out the lefty socialist democrats who are in the pockets of anti gun billionaires and unions of every kind.

I don't want their help and I don't want them to force me to help anyone else.   On a day to day basis..  lefty democrats make more laws that affect me than any that republicans have made... whenever I see an utterly insane and intrusive new law.. I know a democrat is behind it.   Telling me what I can eat and what new safety apparel I have to have for every facet of my life.

Telling me that only their bodyguards can be trusted with guns.

lazs

[Hazzer]

 Laz,to me your the ultimate libertarian,you love your freedoms and want to protect them.It's the one and only thing I agree with you on,and it's fundamental.