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Offline df54

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yak9u vs 109f
« on: August 11, 2008, 06:02:09 PM »
   

   any tips for this matchup. im in the yak. on paper the 109 has better
   climbrate and can out turn the yak. the only advantage for yak is speed

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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 06:51:12 PM »
High speed fight the 109, the yak has much better high speed performence than the 109f. Also since the 109f is the "best" 109 varient, and it also has the best turn radius of all except the 109E, i wouldn't suggest getting into a turn fight as well. I've flown the yak and it's kinda mushy at low speed handling so i would keep your E when dancing with a 109F.

Key to beating a 109F is to exploit it's poor cockpit views and high speed handling, if you can keep the fight above 300-400 IAS you shouldn't have a problem with a novice 109 pilot. But a experienced pilot will lure you into a low speed fight were the 109 really shines. Hope this helps.


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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 06:56:14 PM »
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 07:47:53 AM »
I agree completely with MjTalon about keeping the fight fast and not to TnB too much against the 109. However  if for whatever reason you do end up turning with the 109, ensure that its a right hand turn. Torque wise 109 yaws left whilst Yak yaws right.....its not much, but it just might keep you alive a little longer.

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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 11:24:41 AM »
Mismatches like these are a great example of how a 1vs1 can favor the aircraft that is outclassed in the main arena.  The fight can be held to a stalemate so long as the 109 does not follow the Yak into high speed dives, and the Yak does not turn too much.  Make the fight 2vs2 and the 109Fs are in trouble.
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 11:29:19 AM »
I would think 109F4 would be all over the Yak9U. Gixer where are you ~ we need to prove this point!
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 02:52:41 PM »
well if the 109f bounces the yak with superior e he can prob kill quickly if the yak dont just dive out.

in a co e fight it would probably be a stalemate.
but the minute the yak burns too much e the 109 will be all over him.
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 02:58:35 PM »
E management will always be the name of the game. I've been learning form Widewing on that but haven't seem to get it down yet=/. <-- lookin for more lesson on it.
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 12:35:31 PM »
E management will always be the name of the game. I've been learning form Widewing on that but haven't seem to get it down yet=/. <-- lookin for more lesson on it.

i wouldnt mind TnB with you some yenny i you happen to see me in the da or in mw invite me and ill be glad to fool around in any plane matchup you wish. as long as i dont have to fly a yak lol i never fly em hardly ever touch an la too

course we could both grab planes we suck in lol ill definetly take a 38j :D
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 12:50:24 PM »
Yea for sure bud, I usually spend about an hour in DA a day. I'll look for ya then.
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2008, 01:36:22 PM »
yea i been messin around online im prob gonna get in game a few minuts here.

cant play the LW arena due to my GPU died and horible frame rate im on the onboard intel chip now but i have no problem in DA TA MW and EW
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2008, 05:37:51 PM »
Yak U as everyone has already covered, importantly just maintain an energy advantage over the 109 Yak will turn nicely with almost anything down to 200mph not sustained but with throttle control enough to put on some lead for a shot. 

More interestingly is the match up against the Yak T since the T (if the 109 has wep on tap)  only advantage is the gun. My preference especially with Yak T against 109 or any average to good turner is sucker them into verticle scissors and hit them with the 37 on the first crossover. 


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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2008, 05:21:24 PM »
wait a minute,can a yak 9t turn any better than the yak 9u? :confused:
i know the 9t carries more firepower and that you should never try to ho it
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Re: yak9u vs 109f
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2008, 06:24:28 PM »
wait a minute,can a yak 9t turn any better than the yak 9u? :confused:
i know the 9t carries more firepower and that you should never try to ho it
but...

The Yak T doesnt turn and better radius wise then the U they are very similar the difference is that where the U feels light and nimble the T feels slightly heavier and more planted though both need good throttle control and a light hand.

Im my opinion the Yak T advantage is scissors it handles nicely and can put anything away with one shot. The Yak U advantage is that it has atleast one form of fighting vs almost any other fighter that it can take advantage off.

Biggest difference to the two is engine power weight ratio and climb rate. And of course the main gun you don't get many assists with a 37mm and you dont need to resort to its HO advantage to be effective in it. 


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Re: yak9u vs 109f-attn:GIXER
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 04:34:58 PM »
The Yak U advantage is that it has atleast one form of fighting vs almost any other fighter that it can take advantage off



  Gixer, could you explain this further.