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Offline Nilsen

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Re: Enemy is crushed, Victory is ours.
« Reply #75 on: August 13, 2008, 02:19:37 AM »
Aggressors forced to peace. WTG Russian Armed Forces.

Game over.

A big WTG on kicking that dumb Saakashvili out of SO :aok. Hope you took out a large part of their equipment.

Not such a big fan of russian troops going beyond SO but i guess Georgia learned a few very valuable lessons.

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« Reply #76 on: August 13, 2008, 02:31:25 AM »
Why some people continue to ignore the simple fact that who started the hostilities is in dispute is beyond me. South Ossetia/Russia claims Georgia started it. Georgia claims separatists shelled villages outside of South Ossetia.

Fact is, there have been skirmishes between the two sides for some time now. Yet people still say.....I'm sure glad Russia stomped the crap out of them!  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #77 on: August 13, 2008, 02:45:56 AM »
Yet everyone here automaticly thinks Russia is at fault. For the first time in decades i think they had a just cause and a right to do what they did to defend the citizens of SO. How the Georgian presidents plays the media and how he tries to involve "The West" to help him tells me lots.

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« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2008, 02:57:57 AM »
Why some people continue to ignore the simple fact that who started the hostilities is in dispute is beyond me. South Ossetia/Russia claims Georgia started it. Georgia claims separatists shelled villages outside of South Ossetia.

Fact is, there have been skirmishes between the two sides for some time now. Yet people still say.....I'm sure glad Russia stomped the crap out of them!  :rolleyes:

One day we might know the truth of the matter, but today we don't.

We've got a LOT more russians in brooklyn than there are in georgia. lets say Brooklyn, having a significant number of expat russians; decided to become an autonomous region and tossed out the fed and state courts, fired the cops and installed their own leaders.. and the state police rolled into town the next day and walked into an artillery barrage, delivered by a brigade of russian 'volunteers'...

.. the state police gets reinforced by the national guard...

which gets slapped by russian air and armor units put ashore by russian warships...

... all in the name of 'protecting russian citizens'.

I think I understand Nils now.... I'd let 'em have brooklyn. can't stand the place... anything the russians did to it would be an improvement.

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« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2008, 03:04:42 AM »
They aren't withdrawing to their original start-lines' on the north side of the Ossetian border, according to some of these late breaking stories.

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TBILISI, Georgia - The head of Georgia's national security council said Wednesday that 50 Russian tanks had entered the strategic Georgian city of Gori, and another top Georgian official said his country's troops were completely driven from the separatist province of Abkhazia.

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Security council head Alexander Lomaia said that the tanks entered Gori about 9:45 a.m., about eight hours after Georgia accepted a cease-fire previously agreed to by Russia to end a conflict that broke out last week.

Independent confirmation of Lomaia's claim was not immediately possible.

The cease-fire agreement calls for both Georgian and Russian forces to retreat to the positions they held before the fighting over the separatist region of South Ossetia began.

Gori, which sits on Georgia's only significant east-west road, is about 15 miles over the South Ossetian border into Georgia.

Temur Yakobashvili, the Cabinet minister for reintegration, said Wednesday that Georgian troops had been driven by Russian forces from the small part of Abkhazia they had held.

A Russian general on Tuesday said the Georgians had been driven out but by separatist forces and not the Russian military.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_on_re_eu/georgia_russia_73;_ylt=ApFcFoJTCzIw9hbblbnMF4ZbbBAF

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« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2008, 03:07:57 AM »
Claims so far. There have been plenty of false claims on _both_ sides (yes that includes Georgia) in this conflict so keep that in mind.

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« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2008, 03:10:58 AM »
They aren't withdrawing to their original start-lines' on the north side of the Ossetian border, according to some of these late breaking stories.

No, this has turned into a land grab.

It is akin to the US sending certain Mexican radicals weapons secretly and invading when Mexico tries to punish them. Later, we absorb Baja and everything north of Mexico City... maybe then we can also make threads that say, "The vermin have been eliminated, victory is ours."
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Re: Enemy is crushed, Victory is ours.
« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2008, 03:43:40 AM »
Yet everyone here automaticly thinks Russia is at fault. For the first time in decades i think they had a just cause and a right to do what they did to defend the citizens of SO. How the Georgian presidents plays the media and how he tries to involve "The West" to help him tells me lots.

So if it were American tanks invading Canada to protect the citizens of Ontario, could it be Canada's fault?
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« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2008, 04:05:32 AM »
Definately  :t
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« Reply #84 on: August 13, 2008, 04:21:02 AM »
Later, we absorb Baja

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« Reply #85 on: August 13, 2008, 05:54:05 AM »
They beat a far smaller side that was equipped with the very early models of the same equipment.

US has invested so much in training and equipping the georgian army.
Here are some pics of the last exercise "IMMEDIATE RESPONSE 2008" held in Georgia (July 2008).









Nevertheless Mr Saakashvili managed to screw his army up in the most stupid way (I am not speaking about the atrocities commited in the Tschinvali - that's another case). The whole plan of taking South Osetia under control was screwed up and left without backup.  The only thing Mr Saakashvili did well was screaming about russian agression and begging for help. The question is why should US help such a looser anymore? Just because he is pro-western ? He proved to be not  smart enough to play the role and has already compromised himself badly in so many ways.  It's a big waste. He leads his country to an inevitable collapse.




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Re: Enemy is crushed, Victory is ours.
« Reply #86 on: August 13, 2008, 06:26:10 AM »
Dont call me out on this one, but doesn't Georgia have the #3 most troops in Iraq supporting the Americans? Only being beat by the Brits by a few #s? I'm kinda disappointed America DIDN'T try to do more than it did. But hey, maybe someone else will 'attack' Russia for them to invade another county.




Shoot, Russia would have more trouble invading Texas (probably lose too) than Georgia. Boroda, Russia didn't accomplish anything, nothing at all. They invaded a country smaller than most of the States in the U.S. and crushed it.  :rolleyes:


Edit: I forgot Texas has Fort Hood, Russia would DEFINATELY lose.
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« Reply #87 on: August 13, 2008, 06:44:56 AM »
Nice troll Angelair  :rofl

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« Reply #88 on: August 13, 2008, 06:46:44 AM »
Yes his trolling expertise is growing.
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« Reply #89 on: August 13, 2008, 08:36:16 AM »
  50 warships closing in on Persian Gulf,:it may be to early for Boroda to celebrate victory

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