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Offline Serenity

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Maybe its just me...
« on: August 15, 2008, 09:21:25 PM »
But this is starting to sound rather pathetic.

http://www.military.com/news/article/predator-pilots-suffering-war-stress.html?ESRC=dod.nl

Highlights: Predator pilots are suffering war stress!

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 09:34:00 PM »
You know, I was going to agree with you about this, but I've changed my mind.


The way the article describes it...  The way they casually fight a war like it's a day job, then go home...  It'd probably affect me too.


But take that from someone who has no experience whatsoever.
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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 09:35:30 PM »
You know, I was going to agree with you about this, but I've changed my mind.


The way the article describes it...  The way they casually fight a war like it's a day job, then go home...  It'd probably affect me too.


But take that from someone who has no experience whatsoever.

I just think that in the heirarchy of trauma victims, the guys actually OVER the battlefield, and the guys on the ground there are a bit higher up. What these guys do is practically a video-game.

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 09:39:47 PM »
Except for, when they're playing this game, they are actually ending someone's life. And, since they are in their comfortable, air conditioned trailer, with no threat to them. They can't rationalize it as well as a frontline combat soldier can... shot or be shot... they're watching comfortably in high definition as the trigger they pulled is ending a man's (or multiple mens') life(ves).
I thought the same way as laser (that's a new one :lol), I thought this was pretty stupid at first but when you think about it...

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 09:43:08 PM »
At this point:...
I think all of us are suffering war stress to some degree.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 07:42:04 AM »
they need to hire sociopaths for the job

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2008, 08:03:56 AM »
I think these guys have valid war time stress, like it says, normally when a pilot drops a bomb he doesn't usually see the people he's just killed, but the Predator pilots see in high resolution the people he's firing a missile at, and then goes back home to a normal environment.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2008, 01:54:10 PM »
Sorry, can't really break out a tear for this one, especially when you compare it to the folks on the ground in country.
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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2008, 04:06:56 PM »
but you can't compare them to the ground folks.  Killing is killing!  it's not natural to do.  DO I feel less sympothy for these guys than some grunt?  hell yea.....but it's still gonna take a toll on the soul.  Unless you have a hard heart you aren't programed as a human to push a button and kill somone then go home and kiss the wife and kids as you walk in the door.

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2008, 04:28:35 PM »
but you can't compare them to the ground folks.  Killing is killing!  it's not natural to do.  DO I feel less sympothy for these guys than some grunt?  hell yea.....but it's still gonna take a toll on the soul.  Unless you have a hard heart you aren't programed as a human to push a button and kill somone then go home and kiss the wife and kids as you walk in the door.


well said Gunslinger

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2008, 04:53:22 PM »
These guys deserve a way to release too. I may not have ever had bullets zinging over my head but I can tell you after working in the emergency services for almost 10 years now, I would be crazy if I would not be able to vent to someone that actually understands where I am coming from. I am fortunate in that respect my job is not secret and I have a wife that works in the same field as I do.

These guys may not be effected in the same way as those on the ground. I'll admit that in alot of ways their job may be easier than those away from home but there are aspects that make such a thing difficult too. One of which is probably feeling the need to talk it out with the one person that you are supposed to be able to vent to and can't. That would be very difficult to me since my wife and I communicate everything and can tell when something is wrong.

I just don't believe that the article meant any disrespect to those that have been in the firefights but simply telling that there are other aspects that originally not anticipated until now.

I will now share some wise words that my uncle who was a bomber (not sure which one) pilot in WWII shared with me prior to his passing.  Don't judge another man until you walked a milein his shoes. In other words you don't know how hard that mans job is until you have actually had to do it.

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2008, 05:06:43 PM »
Highlights: Predator pilots are suffering war stress!

Looks like the idea that appears so popular here, to go to war with Russia, is not that good at all :D

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2008, 06:13:15 PM »
Looks like the idea that appears so popular here, to go to war with Russia, is not that good at all :D

gimme a break.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2008, 06:19:19 PM »
gimme a break.
In your latest field of glory. Russia has shown all the skill that would be necessary for Hulk hogan to kick the arse of a 60 pound 11 year old blind girl.

What?!

Your allmighty Georgian americanly-trained glorious troops got kicked by numerically inferior untrained Russian drafted soldiers armed by obsolet AKs not allmighty M4s!!!

Better watch news from Iraq right now. Peacemakers my ass!

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2008, 06:20:10 PM »
Looks like the idea that appears so popular here, to go to war with Russia, is not that good at all :D

Um... No offense, but just remember. When the call to war comes, ALL of our B-52s on the line will start the first time. Each of our B-1s will make it off of the runway on the first attempt. Each B-2 will release ordinance without fail. And all the while they will be escorted by some of the best aircraft in the world. America may not be what it used to be, but if we give our military the freedom to fight a PROPER war, someone is gonna get a big hurtin...