Texas schools' arming Teachers.

[lazs2]

badkarma..   yep.. you got it...   just like when they armed millions of citizens and gave em the right to carry concealed weapons.. 

You and your ilk "predicted" that every fender bender would turn into a old west range war right on the streets.

Your womanly metrosexual hysteria is as well founded on this issue as it was on that one.

lazs

[bongaroo]

Shhh... you're ruining a good guns solve everything rant. Facts have no bearing in this.

i loled

[FrodeMk3]

Shhh... you're ruining a good guns solve everything rant. Facts have no bearing in this.

If they would have used almost any other example of a school shooting, such as Columbine or VT, I wouldn't have said a peep. But the Amish school is perhaps' the worst example to use in one of these things, because the Amish aren't gonna use violence even in self defence.

[Rich46yo]

I say train em and arm em.

[RedTop]

Frode...you have a point...in that they don't do the violence thing. I'll give ya that.....However....It is possible....that IF they had something of this IN place....the teacher MAY have broken with tradition. Possible don't you think?

And I was basically using the small town school as to say no place is out of reach.

[FrodeMk3]

Frode...you have a point...in that they don't do the violence thing. I'll give ya that.....However....It is possible....that IF they had something of this IN place....the teacher MAY have broken with tradition. Possible don't you think?

And I was basically using the small town school as to say no place is out of reach.

It's still not a good example, because when you read the link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting You notice that the Amish school shooting didn't actually begin as such; It started more as a hostage situation, that then turned ugly, with the shooting of the hostages. Let me put it this way; At VT and Colombine, once the shooters' started criminal activities, they were shooting people from the get-go. Here, the Penn. state troopers' were trying to communicate with the Hostage-taker first. The situations' were different, Perhaps' leading the victims inside to think that there was a way out of this without bloodshed. Now, for the Amish, at least in this story, that would be a key issue.

I see your point about a small school being out of reach. However, the likelyhood of a shooting happening in a larger school (Colombine, VT, etc.) Is much greater.

[RedTop]

I see your point about a small school being out of reach. However, the likelyhood of a shooting happening in a larger school (Colombine, VT, etc.) Is much greater.

Thats basically all the point I was making...example excluded....thanks

[redman555]

i wish i could bring my gun 2 school rofl.... if somtin like columbine happens, i can cap that fool


-BigBOBCH

[Tango]

IF it had been alowed at Columbine, the outcome possibly wouldn't have been so bad or may noy have happened the way it did. Before the punks went into the school a deputy that was there [only person with a gun] was shot at by them and simply stayed put. IF there had been teachers inside with a gun, I doubt the punks would have had so much time to plan things out and do what they did.

THATS the point.

[Shamus]

I would like to be able to carry into a courthouse again, but alas, even though I have had a ccw for 30 years and get background checked and printed every 3 years, they say no .

I don't think putting guns into schools is going to solve anything.

Sure we can all sit here and use Columbine as an example of how it may have been stopped had a teacher been armed and happened to have run across those guy's but who knows?

We do know that swat was outside while the shooting was going on and chose not to enter, you think some shop teacher with a glock is going to save the day?

shamus

[1pLUs44]

I was raised near a small town. Population at the time was around a whopping 600.
We had what can only be called an "assault team" rob the local bank. Entry team, rooftop snipers and ground perimeter set up by the robbers. Yeah.....................noth ing ever happens in a small town.

Lets see, I live 20 miles from austin in a town w/ 50,000+ people in it. 2,000 people go to my school. A lil slap fight between 2 wussies once a month is about all that happens. I've only seen in 3 serious fights and I was in 1 myself, people here are all talk.

[RipChord929]

Well hmmmm....

There was a shooting in the Tacoma Mall, (Tacoma WA)
Just some wackjob w an AKcopy...

An armed citizen was by the door when the culprit walked in
and whipped it out...

Badguy was charging his weapon, as Mr Goodcitizen drew his
pistol, (.40cal I think).... Mr goodguy does his best Starsky/Hutch,
points his pistol, and says FREEZE... Uh Oh!!!!

Badguy turns and mows him down with the AK....!

The goodguy should have taken cover, not drawn any attn....
Waited till the guy passed by, and opened up on the renta cops...
Then stepped out, and popped the whacko a new hole in the back of his head....

Case Closed!!!

Is your shop teacher ready to be that ruthless????

If not, then leave the guns at home....

  RC

[Tango]

We do know that swat was outside while the shooting was going on and chose not to enter, you think some shop teacher with a glock is going to save the day?

shamus

I'm not a cop but I do know that if I was a teacher, with a gun, in my class room with gunshots going off that they would have had a few holes in them when they came through that door and wasn't wearing a uniform, while carrying a gun.

Guns are tools just like a hammer or an axe. Use them for good or not. IF they were so bad then why do we have more gun violence in modern times when fewer people can carry them than we did over 100 years ago when most people carried them?

[Tango]

Well hmmmm....

There was a shooting in the Tacoma Mall, (Tacoma WA)
Just some wackjob w an AKcopy...

An armed citizen was by the door when the culprit walked in
and whipped it out...

Badguy was charging his weapon, as Mr Goodcitizen drew his
pistol, (.40cal I think).... Mr goodguy does his best Starsky/Hutch,
points his pistol, and says FREEZE... Uh Oh!!!!

Badguy turns and mows him down with the AK....!

The goodguy should have taken cover, not drawn any attn....
Waited till the guy passed by, and opened up on the renta cops...
Then stepped out, and popped the whacko a new hole in the back of his head....

Case Closed!!!

Is your shop teacher ready to be that ruthless????

If not, then leave the guns at home....

  RC

What about the Colorado Springs church shooting?

Assam, a church security guard with law enforcement experience, fired her own weapon at the invader and stopped his attack, police say.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/10/colorado.shootings/index.html

Seems as though she stopped anymore innocent people from getting shot.

[Shamus]

Guns are tools just like a hammer or an axe. Use them for good or not. IF they were so bad then why do we have more gun violence in modern times when fewer people can carry them than we did over 100 years ago when most people carried them?

Schools around here frown on axes in class too.

shamus