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Offline Krusty

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2008, 01:10:03 PM »
the "servers" (hardware), I believe are not stressed at all. The software may be stressed, but that would only be a guess and I could be ...

That's why I called the comment BS. A tad harsh, I do admit.

A server is not just a chunk of hardware. The CPU itself may not be at full capacity. The ram may have 1 GB free when redlined, I don't know how they define "stressed" -- but a server includes the software, the overall package (i.e "the server") isn't holding up as well, whether or not the physical components are.

I think it misleading the way it was phrased, hence my reply.

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2008, 01:12:17 PM »
<snip>So I don't know it's the server. But it has to be something on the server's side. Sorry for generalizing.

That's why I called the comment BS. A tad harsh, I do admit.

A server is not just a chunk of hardware. The CPU itself may not be at full capacity. The ram may have 1 GB free when redlined, I don't know how they define "stressed" -- but a server includes the software, the overall package (i.e "the server") isn't holding up as well, whether or not the physical components are.

I think it misleading the way it was phrased, hence my reply.

Again, you are making assumptions about things you have no knowledge of.  It does not have to be on the server side, no matter how much you think it should be or how many times you say it is.
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2008, 01:20:30 PM »
They don't listen to their non-paying users.

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2008, 01:22:48 PM »
The only time I have issues is when I'm in a low furball over a GV battle.  Simply toggling from Full Visibility to Short Visibility helps some.  My machine is a 2002 Pentium3 which I think is the main cause.
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2008, 01:29:24 PM »
That's why I called the comment BS. A tad harsh, I do admit.

A server is not just a chunk of hardware. The CPU itself may not be at full capacity. The ram may have 1 GB free when redlined, I don't know how they define "stressed" -- but a server includes the software, the overall package (i.e "the server") isn't holding up as well, whether or not the physical components are.

I think it misleading the way it was phrased, hence my reply.

 BLAH BLAH BLAH, From what I can see HTC business is growing, more and more new folks on all the time. They must be doin somethin right. Some goofy things goin on on tuesday but it's NO big deal. The ghost dots are harmless and easily ignored. I suspect HTC is using Titanic Tuesday as a test arena and learning much from it for potential future upgrades so I say WTG and thanks for the game!!  :rock

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2008, 01:33:00 PM »
I don't mean to putt anyone on the spot, and I don't mean any harm, but I kinda like to here what HTC's reply to the main topic of this post is. and Im not taking sides, Im just happy to be flying at all.
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2008, 01:33:02 PM »
Yes, HTC Listens to its users, the problem is, They don't listen to their non-paying users.

What possible motivation would a company have for investing time, resources and effort to satisfy people who have no intention of paying for the service? I highly suggest you take a course in basic economics. If there is no potential for even the indirect realization of revenue and profit from an endeavor no company could possibly consider it and remain solvent.
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2008, 01:39:05 PM »

           I believe one item that might be very helpful if improved,is a "solo" arena. For those nights
   where you want a good battle,but you dont want to contend with the "crowd".In "Warbirds" they
   have a free-flight where you can also pick and choose air or ground battles with the number of
  enemy. This would give a guy a chance to get away for a bit,but still enjoy the fun of AHII
  without working an "editor" or going to another game for solo fun.
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2008, 01:41:06 PM »
Amen Zazen for that...All I could think is, I don't listen to nonpaying customers either.

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2008, 01:41:35 PM »
I'm Not Jokeing around. And I don't do drugs, That is to much crap to take when You were just about to make a name for your self... Try to Think about people that care.

Maybe you should take drugs... I would recommend one that would improve your spelling for a start. It bothers me not one bit that the freeloaders and H2H are gone.

It might be a good idea to bring it back but have it be a feature available to PAYING customers. (sorry, that would exclude gvs).

Your post makes very little sense, due to your lack of anything resembling written communication skills...
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2008, 01:41:46 PM »
Personally, I'd be satisfied if they put only big maps in rotation in one LWA and only small maps in rotation in the other, lifted the caps and brought back all the old maps.

Relaxed realism... no.  WWI and Korea... yes.  But those were all AW components, not AH and the WWI and Korea arenas were as sparsly populated as EW and MW are now.
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2008, 01:43:07 PM »
What possible motivation would a company have for investing time, resources and effort to satisfy people who have no intention of paying for the service? I highly suggest you take a course in basic economics. If there is no potential for even the indirect realization of revenue and profit from an endeavor no company could possibly consider it and remain solvent.

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2008, 01:53:09 PM »
A couple of points directed at the OP...

The design and implementation of a product that is in constant dynamic flux as all massively multiplayer games are is never "complete". There are three primary factors that influence the moving target of implementation:

1) Technology
2) Design Concept
3) Customer

Technology improves rapidly in this industry and HTC does a fairly good job of keeping pace with those changes without creating prohibitive minimum system requirements that would disenfranchise large swaths of customers. Limiting technological factors that plague the game today may be resolved tomorrow. So, the incorporation of changes to accommodate those types of technological innovations that cast off restrictions are far more important than updating graphics to make full use of the latest/greatest video cards out there, for example.

The design concept is like the Wizard of Oz behind his curtain. We can only assume by the current implementation to what extent it is still a work in progress. If I were HTC, I would have short, medium and long-term goals to improve, modify and update design concept changes. A lot of those changes would be "on hold" pending technological advancements and integration. I would imagine HTC does in fact have some kind of list along those lines.

Then of course there's the customer. This is where it gets tricky. Because, while I say, "The Customer", which is how it looks on paper, in reality there's 10,000+? people who feel they are, "The Customer". Everyone's expectations and perspectives of the product are different. Even more complicating is the fact that a lot of what some customers may want conflict with current Technological limitations and/or the design concept. While some "geeks' may fathom their future expectation is currently out of reach technologically it is understandably unlikely they would know whether their future expectation is in direct conflict with the designer's evolving game design concept..

So, while there's no doubt HTC listens to their customers, as they have categorically proven. It is not as simple as, "Your wish is my command, sire". There's mitigating factors, "The Customer", is completely oblivious to for the most part. That being said we do owe it to HTC to keep them informed of what we'd like in the short, medium and long-term for possible consideration and inclusion on their "magic list".

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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2008, 02:15:23 PM »
What possible motivation would a company have for investing time, resources and effort to satisfy people who have no intention of paying for the service? I highly suggest you take a course in basic economics. If there is no potential for even the indirect realization of revenue and profit from an endeavor no company could possibly consider it and remain solvent.

Come on Zaz ... I would have thought that you would have realized, after reading his post, that you would have had to "dumb down" your reply more than that if you really wanted to get your point across.

Or was that as "dumb downed" as you can go ? ... :rofl
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Re: Give the people what they want
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2008, 02:19:10 PM »
Maybe you should take drugs... I would recommend one that would improve your spelling for a start. It bothers me not one bit that the freeloaders and H2H are gone.

It might be a good idea to bring it back but have it be a feature available to PAYING customers. (sorry, that would exclude gvs).

Your post makes very little sense, due to your lack of anything resembling written communication skills... What on earth were you trying to say??? Maybe I can get the translation from someone that already has a name made for themselves!
If you haven't made a name for yourself, what do others call you?

All I'm trying to saying for non paying users, If it was live $1-$5 a month I would be satisfied.