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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #585 on: September 01, 2008, 11:05:48 AM »
and Hangtime..  hard to keep track of this thread the way it moves but...

I am going to do pretty much as you say.. I am going to move out a ways on some land with my own well and septic and maybe power.   It is a cowards way out but.. I ain't getting any younger.

My thinking is that the socialists will be too busy picking over the bones of the metrosexual blue voters to get around to me out in the sticks for 20 years or so if I don't make too much noise..

By then I will be dead or won't care...  I will probly be out of ammo and not care that my hot rods are banned.

course.. if we get a lot more politicians in like Palin...  things may swing to the good before I die..  never can tell...  leave it to you guys to battle the nanny state and it's army of blue voting metrosexuals.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #586 on: September 01, 2008, 11:19:48 AM »
What's wrong with this picture is that once again you're leveling your own vision of reality on me and what I believe, and instead proving you don't have a CLUE what's going on in my head, politically or otherwise.

I believe and agree that the Second Amendment protects the rights of the individual to keep and bear arms, but that letting John Q. Public run around with full-automatics or never knowing if some seemingly well-adjusted individual could be packing until he has a REALLY bad day and just snaps is a BAD and frightening thing.

I'm sick and tired of parents groups controlling what's in the media because it may be offensive to .5% of the population. When a movie like Blazing Saddles couldn't be made in today's climate because minority groups have such thin skin now something is SERIOUSLY wrong. I have the right to call someone black, or Chinese, or crippled without it being meant as an insult or degrading. I have the right to USE insulting terms in a tongue-in-cheek manner that's just in fun or satire without it being taken seriously and that the PC Police should back the hell off.

I believe that immigrants to this country should learn to understand and exist in American culture and know English, but that they have EVERY right to not be forced--by law or fear of whack-job supremacists--to abandon their own. A Muslim woman in America has as much right to wear a burqa in public as I do to dress in a way appropriate to MY culture.

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It is meaningless..   It says nothing..  what is "too far" for you is much different than what is too far for me or anyone else.

It says EVERYTHING. And if you STILL can't see that now, then you're so far wrapped up in your own little world and your own beliefs that you're blind and deaf to what anyone else is saying and have no place attacking or criticizing me for mine in the FIRST place.

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What are the "rights or contributions of the individuals" to you?

Individual thought. Individual expression. That I have the right to write or paint the most disgustingly offensive work of literature or art imaginable without fear of legal reprisal. That I have the right to restrain MYSELF of my OWN ethical volition. That I have the right to contribute MY voice, however controversial it is, to the public discourse without fear of ridicule or attack, or government retribution. That I can be what I want and WHO I want, WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT GOES WITH IT.

And I live my life with the understanding that some things I CAN'T do because the government must look out for the public safety and guarantee that everyone has the same chance that I do. I can't run around firing guns into the air. I can't drive 50 in a 25. I have to acknowledge and respect the fact that while I have the right to be what I want to be and to become the BEST that I can be my neighbor does too, and I can't exclude him because I'm white and he's black, I'm a man or she's a woman, I was born here, or he's an immigrant. The government PROTECTS that equal opportunity and I have to accept that.

I live my life with the understanding that I can't deny you YOUR right to your narrow world-view, but the MOMENT you target me, claim you KNOW me, think you can LABEL me, I will NOT stand by quietly.

So go back to your mountain stronghold and keep thinking you have reality all neatly wrapped up with its big pretty ribbon on top, and that the whole world revolves according to your perception of it.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #587 on: September 01, 2008, 11:33:58 AM »
Looks like the rumors were half true about the daughter being pregnant. The new born baby appears to really be Sarah's Palins but it also appears the 17 y.o daughter is knocked up. So that explains the eRumors and pictures that started popping up yesterday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26496189/

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #588 on: September 01, 2008, 11:34:06 AM »

I believe and agree that the Second Amendment protects the rights of the individual to keep and bear arms, but that letting John Q. Public run around with full-automatics or never knowing if some seemingly well-adjusted individual could be packing until he has a REALLY bad day and just snaps is a BAD and frightening thing.


Please stop ignoring the blatant facts.  You do not support the Second Amendment.  The average citizen isn't armed with full-auto weapons.  In most cases they could have them if they wanted them, but just can't afford them.

The "seemingly well-adjusted individual" who carries concealed has not gone berserk and opened fire.  The overwhelming majority of the states allow concealed carry now by virtue of "shall-issue" laws, and yet there has been an almost complete absence of attacks or shootings by licensed carriers in violation of the laws.  But please, don't do any research, do not allow the facts and reality cloud your opinions or perceptions.  There have been many many cases of concealed carry individuals defending life and limb with their weapons, many cases involving the presence of a person defending themselves without having to fire a shot.  You guess maybe they weren't having a bad enough day?

You are more likely to be struck by lightning than shot at by a licensed concealed carrying individual, but again, don't let that interfere with any irrational fear you may have.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #589 on: September 01, 2008, 11:43:10 AM »
There is nothing in the text of the Second Amendment that even SUGGESTS that one MUST support Conceal and Carry as well.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #590 on: September 01, 2008, 11:46:16 AM »
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Isn't it funny how time makes a lot of people forget how it was?

We weren't united after 9/11.  Even then people believed the government was behind it.

We weren't united after 12/7.  Even then people believed the government was behind it / caused it.





There has not been one single moment throughout all of the US's history that we have been united.  And it is downright childish to think otherwise.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #591 on: September 01, 2008, 11:47:55 AM »
There is nothing in the text of the Second Amendment that even SUGGESTS that one MUST support Conceal and Carry as well.

I don't care if you support it, but I do find it naive to try and insinuate that it would be typical for licensed carriers to pull out a gun and start shooting when they are having a bad day.  Hasn't happened, doesn't happen, typically only suggested by anti-gun lobbiest who use scare tactics contrary to reality to create fear.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #592 on: September 01, 2008, 11:49:15 AM »
Isn't it funny how time makes a lot of people forget how it was?

We weren't united after 9/11.  Even then people believed the government was behind it.

We weren't united after 12/7.  Even then people believed the government was behind it / caused it.





There has not been one single moment throughout all of the US's history that we have been united.  And it is downright childish to think otherwise.

I think you forget Pearl Harbor.  Isn't it funny how time makes a lot of people forget how it was?
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #593 on: September 01, 2008, 11:52:37 AM »
I think you forget Pearl Harbor.  Isn't it funny how time makes a lot of people forget how it was?


You are aware that Pearl Harbor was attacked December 7th, right?  And december 7th, when written in numbers and slashes, is 12/7.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #594 on: September 01, 2008, 11:55:26 AM »
What's wrong with this picture is that once again you're leveling your own vision of reality on me and what I believe, and instead proving you don't have a CLUE what's going on in my head, politically or otherwise.

I believe and agree that the Second Amendment protects the rights of the individual to keep and bear arms, but that letting John Q. Public run around with full-automatics or never knowing if some seemingly well-adjusted individual could be packing until he has a REALLY bad day and just snaps is a BAD and frightening thing.



you want world peace? take the guns away from the polititions!
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #595 on: September 01, 2008, 11:55:39 AM »
You are aware that Pearl Harbor was attacked December 7th, right?  And december 7th, when written in numbers and slashes, is 12/7.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #596 on: September 01, 2008, 12:07:21 PM »
yep sandie..  again..  Like I told dred.. I will be glad to debate any of your views (as I have in the past) in another thread but.. your idea of gun control is just more socialism.. you are saying that POTENTIAL is enough for you to ban "for the common good".

The truth of course is much different than your  hand wringing..  The dentist down the street from me ordered a semi auto 20 mm cannon when I was a kid.. you could get em for about $100  thousands were sold.. no problems.

really...  I have no problem with anyone expressing themselves with whatever they think their culture is..  But.. if a bank says no coming in the bank wearing a mask of any sort.. that is the banks business for instance..  it is not a burka..it is a mask in that case.  If a business wants to let people smoke..  it is their choice.. the only obligation they have is to simply put out a notice saying that people smoke so... anyone so weak that they shoulda died at birth anyway should not enter.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #597 on: September 01, 2008, 12:08:20 PM »
Isn't it funny how time makes a lot of people forget how it was?

We weren't united after 9/11.  Even then people believed the government was behind it.

We weren't united after 12/7.  Even then people believed the government was behind it / caused it.

There has not been one single moment throughout all of the US's history that we have been united.  And it is downright childish to think otherwise.

Ok.. in your world there would be two times...
'83 when Conners lost the Cup to the Aussies
'87 when Conners took it back in 4 straight.

neener, neener, neener.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #598 on: September 01, 2008, 12:09:42 PM »
crock-it..  this seems soooooo phony of you..  if some shrill liberal left winger lesbo had gotten pregnant out of wedlock or... better yet.. decided to kill the brat..  you would be wetting yourself over her courage.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #599 on: September 01, 2008, 12:12:43 PM »
Ok.. in your world there would be two times...
'83 when Conners lost the Cup to the Aussies
'87 when Conners took it back in 4 straight.

neener, neener, neener.

He cheated it back. 


Depending on my mood (whether or not I really want the cup back at the time) I'd give you this point.
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