Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?

[NOT]

If you are going to teach religion, then you should teach ALL religions, not just one.  

as a Christian who believes very strongly in his faith, i agree with RPM. this country was founded on the principle of freedom of religion. as serious as i take my faith, i also take our constitution seriously. as i think the THEORY of evolution is a bunch of bunk, as some feel the same about my faith, it is our RIGHT as Americans to believe what we will. what i think folks like 20fo misunderstand is, no one that i know of that wants to include creationism in public schools wants it to be exclusive. just included, as the THEORY of evolution is.

now on topic: i don't really know anything about this women, but i do believe McC made a wise strategic choice. i do know i would rather have someone who has at least run a state for 2 yrs, than a noob senator in the white house.




NOT

[Eagler]

Wow....that was a huge stretch. Same rhetoric applies that the "Gays" are the reason for the flooding in Iowa earlier this summer.

no silly .. that and Katrina are the fault of Bush .. even I know that  LOL

just saying, its ok for the dems to teach whatever in the "public" school system as long as it furthers their agenda..

as far as that goes, I'm for vouchers as the system stinks and is producing idiots at record levels which is doing nothing but setting the stage for the demise of the greatest country on earth in my lifetime

[Toad]

Separation from church and state....does that ring a bell?

The bell you hear is ringing in your empty belfry.

If you would bother to do a little research you will find that the 1st Amendment says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

It's not "a" it is "an"; it makes a difference.

The Founders had no problem with the concept of God being involved in government and public life. There are a plethora of writings that show this and many actions that highlight it as well.

To start on your journey towards knowledge, consider this:

1789:On March 4, the Senate convened for the first time at New York City's Federal Hall. On April 6, it achieved its first quorum and proceeded to elect a doorkeeper, secretary, and chaplain.

First thing the first Senate did was elect a chaplain. Not much separation there is there?

[NOT]

The only proof I can think of is a book written by man 1000 years ago.

actually, the new testament of the Bible is 2000 yrs old, and the old testament which is also the Jewish Torah is around 4000+. just FYI





NOT

[Hangtime]

I'm enjoying the leftist howls in the media already.

Wonder how she'll do against Biden in the debate?

damn, this is indeed going to be an interesting 67 days.

[Fury]

I have to hand it to McCain, this was a brilliant move on the heels of the Dem Convention.  I have to believe that this woman Vice President thing will get as much or more press today and over the weekend as Obama's speech and the review of the Convention.  Brilliant.  

<edit>: it will fire up conversations on both sides, Dem and Repub, as well as mainstream 'fair' reporting.
<double edit>: The very unscientific research into this thread and Hangtime's Annointed One shows double the posts here so far

[Kaw1000]

I'm Just glad she will be over Pelosi and Billery...maybe she can oust them somehow.

[rpm]

<double edit>: The very unscientific research into this thread and Hangtime's Annointed One shows double the posts here so far

Your numbers are skewed. This board is around 95% conservative right. A thread about their candidate will naturally draw more.

[TwentyFo]

Creationis,  Come on Fo  is this the best you can do to slam our soon to be VP...Lame

Here ...lets talk about Rev Write and Mrs Obamma hating America....is this much
worse than Creationis???  Wake up

Thinking creationism should be taught in Public schools says a lot about a persons character. Someone who is lazy and ignores known facts is despicable to me. I bet her response to every question she doesn't know is "Because God made it that way."

Republicans wake up and take your party back. Aren't you tired of the religious right having an agenda to force their religion on you. Don't you hate how much influence Pat Robertson and all the other "Men of God" have on your party. What ever happened to fiscal conservatism? Smaller government? What ever happened to the republican party of Regan and even Bush Sr?

[Dead Man Flying]

A risky choice.  On the one hand, you can't connect her in any way with Bush or Washington.  She's truly a political outsider in that respect.  The downsides though potentially outweigh the upsides...

1)  She has limited political experience.  As the VP is only a heartbeat away from the presidency, her nomination undermines the McCain position that Obama is too inexperienced to become president.  If Obama is too inexperienced, what does that make Palin?

2)  Gender is not a strong predictor of vote choice.  If this was meant to woo female voters, or Clinton-leaning voters in particular, it will probably fail.  The strongest predictors of vote choice remain partisan affiliation and strength of partisanship.  Bush and Kerry split the female vote almost 50-50 in 2004, which is unsurprising since that's pretty much how the parties split in the electorate.  It would be surprising, though I suppose not impossible, if gender were to suddenly become an important factor in this election.

-- Todd/Leviathn 

[Toad]

damn, this is indeed going to be an interesting 67 days.

Yah, I am at least thankful to McC for making this more interesting.

The title bout is nauseating; both suck.

But this pick will at least make the Mortal Kombat fun to watch.

[Engine]

engine..  I believe that you probly are not looking at this correctly..   she does not advocate that creationism be taught as the only theory of mans origin.

She just wants all the theories (and that is all they are) to be taught.   It would not take much to add creationism to the list.   Simply say "a large group of people believe in creationism and this is what it is"

I see nothing wrong with that...  just as they taught us in school that all oil came from dinosours..  they were wrong but it was no big deal.

What a silly thing to get upset at.. that a "teacher" would have to teach..  would have to lay out all ideas.

lazs

The issue is that the theory of evolution is scientific conjecture based on overwhelmingly observable evidence, whereas creationism... is religious conjecture based off no observable evidence. That's why I can't support "intelligent design" being taught - because it's not a statement of how we came to exist, it's all just bashing things you can go and observe for yourself.

If the social studies teacher wants to discuss it in World Religion class or whatever, that's fine.

[Hangtime]

Your numbers are skewed. This board is around 95% conservative right. A thread about their candidate will naturally draw more.

LOL... two failed assumptions there RPM, most of us don't even fit the 'conservative right' mold.... seems to me the majority here is the same as the majority 'out there'... middle of the road citizens with more than a little disdain for political hacks regardless of 'party' affiliation. And none of us are shy about taking a dump in either party's cream of wheat.

[crockett]

Just come out and say it.. You're at her cause she's republican.. Not because of her policies.

I can't stand any sort of hard core religious conservatives as politicians, they are bad for our freedoms. If they didn't try to push all the BS morale's via politics then they wouldn't be so bad. I'll give her credit for cutting the pork in Alaska while she has been gov and she appears to be doing some good. However she's already involved in a abuse of power scandle.

It's already obvious this women is lying with the firing scandal, so how can she be trusted? She's already released a statement that she admits "someone" from her office made the call to have her sister's ex-husband (a state trooper btw) fired. Yet she denies she had anything to do with it.. LOL that's so very Dick Cheney of her.

That is straight up abuse of power and this is who you want to be a heart beat away from being president? She has admitted it was her office that made the call yet she expects us to believe she didn't have anything to do with it? Are you guys so hard up that you will ignore that? You O Club righties wench and moan about Clinton getting a BJ in the WH and the fact he lied about yet it's no big deal Cheney lies about the whole spygate deal and now I guess it's no big deal about this women lying about a abuse of power case.

Oh yea and you right winger drill drill drill guys.. I hate to tell you but she's against drilling in Alaska. She says she thinks it's pristine environment and shouldn't be damaged.

[TwentyFo]

what i think folks like 20fo misunderstand is, no one that i know of that wants to include creationism in public schools wants it to be exclusive. just included, as the THEORY of evolution is.

Why not teach the theory of the flying spaghetti monster too? I mean if we are going to teach creationist theories along side evolution we might as well include all religions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Uo5DQTtzc