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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #270 on: September 03, 2008, 09:26:44 AM »
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No matter what you say, I think that a parent is responsible for their children while they are the legal guardian.

I've never said or implied that a parent is not responsible for their children.

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Those decisions, though, are influenced largely by our upbringing and what we have learned from our parents.

The actions and behavior of the child is a clear reflection of the abilities and character of the parents.

That statement makes it obvious that you have not raised a teenager. They have minds of their own and will do what they know is best. After all, their few years on this earth and the vast knowledge they have accumulated trumps their parents teachings.  :lol

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To suggest that Palin was somehow helpless in this situation ridiculous sidestepping.

No one is suggesting Sarah Palin was helpless. No parent has control of a teen aged child once that child steps out the door. When they step out the door you are trusting that they will adhere to what you have taught them in the past and that they will exercise good judgment. However, our children, like us, are not perfect and they make mistakes.

To suggest that Sarah Palin can't control her daughter simply because she got pregnant is grasping at straws.

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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #271 on: September 03, 2008, 09:31:03 AM »
As has been pointed out previously, no matter how well you teach your kids, they can and will do things that you don't believe in or taught them.

And, the only thing that has happened is the oldest daughter getting pregnant. Those photos from perezhilton.com aren't even of one of the Palin daughters. Look at them side by side, the pictures from perezhilton.com show a female with a narrower face structure than either of the two older Palin girls. So yeah....all that is evidence of a teen that is out of control.  :rolleyes:

Dude the pictures came from her boyfriends myspace page.. The guy who is the father to her unborn baby, the pics are her it's just before she became pregnant and started chubbing out.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #272 on: September 03, 2008, 09:33:32 AM »
Lard.. no foaming here, just laughter watching you guys try to double talk and make excuses in order to keep supporting this woman who was obviously a piss poor choice. No way in hell would McCain knowingly pick a VP with this many issues. It just shows his lack of decision making skills.

The only thing that is even an issue is Troopergate, everything else is just grasping at straws.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #273 on: September 03, 2008, 09:34:27 AM »
Dude the pictures came from her boyfriends myspace page.. The guy who is the father to her unborn baby, the pics are her it's just before she became pregnant and started chubbing out.

LOL @ chubbing out.

Even in her family pics she isn't *chubbing out*.   :rofl
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #274 on: September 03, 2008, 09:41:33 AM »
No matter what you say, I think that a parent is responsible for their children while they are the legal guardian. Yes, we are all free to make our own decisions. Those decisions, though, are influenced largely by our upbringing and what we have learned from our parents.

The actions and behavior of the child is a clear reflection of the abilities and character of the parents. To suggest that Palin was somehow helpless in this situation ridiculous sidestepping.



nonono this is the O Club you are talking about..  It's only bad parenting if it's a Democrat take Britney Spears sister for example. Some of the very people in here defending Palin were undoubtedly bashing Jamie Spears when she got pregnant.

In fact in this very thread..  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,222125.0.html  Some of the members that are in here defending Palin daughter getting pregnant were bashing Jamie Spears and claiming bad parenting and were running wild with speculation.

It's always different for these guys when the shoe is on the other foot..  :rofl  Not to mention they cry and whine about us complaining about McCain's pick in only 2 topics. Yet they start 4 or 5 a day bashing Obama.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #275 on: September 03, 2008, 09:45:10 AM »
"When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence education and teaching the children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16. You know, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."

You are taking that completly out of context, to fit your needs.. He also said.. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16. So you think an abortion will get rid of a STD? of course not but you ignore the last line..

You know, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information.

He's talking about making sure they have proper sex education in schools to teach the kids of the dangers and to teach them if they are going to have sex to be safe about it. No where did he imply he meant abortion, it's only "YOU" that is implying that.


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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #276 on: September 03, 2008, 09:54:50 AM »
You are taking that completly out of context, to fit your needs..


Now THAT is truly funny.

Taking it out of context? You must be delusional. The whole paragraph is there. He most definitely linked having a baby with punishment and the context is all there.

BTW, did you notice that the Obamessiah supports abstinence education in that paragraph?
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #277 on: September 03, 2008, 10:01:18 AM »
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In fact in this very thread..  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,222125.0.html  Some of the members that are in here defending Palin daughter getting pregnant were bashing Jamie Spears and claiming bad parenting and were running wild with speculation.

Really? I just read that thread and there is very little bashing of Jamie Spears mother.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #278 on: September 03, 2008, 10:02:06 AM »

Now THAT is truly funny.

Taking it out of context? You must be delusional. The whole paragraph is there. He most definitely linked having a baby with punishment and the context is all there.

BTW, did you notice that the Obamessiah supports abstinence education in that paragraph?


 He is stating that the kids should have proper education from all sides of the subject at that point the kid can make a "educated" choice about their own life if they are in that situation. He wants them to have been taught about proper protection rather than find out the hard way because they didn't know any better.

Honestly, if you can't understand what he is saying in that quote, either you don't want to, or you have lack of comprehension skills.

If you are implying I don't support abstinence, then you obviously haven't read my other posts. I fully support teaching abstinence along side normal sex ed. The issue with Palin is she doesn't want sex ed taught, she was abstinence only  taught.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #279 on: September 03, 2008, 10:04:32 AM »
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You are taking that completly out of context, to fit your needs.. He also said.. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16

You quoted the entire paragraph, the man said....

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But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.

 And right after that he said:

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I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16.

You are as good of entertainment as Boroda ever was.  :rofl
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #280 on: September 03, 2008, 10:05:08 AM »
Really? I just read that thread and there is very little bashing of Jamie Spears mother.

Yea it was all about calling her trailer trash and all that good stuff acting as if no big suprise she got knocked up. Yet turn the tables and the same people are in here all but praising the virgin mary about Palins daughter.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #281 on: September 03, 2008, 10:05:41 AM »
I've never said or implied that a parent is not responsible for their children.

That statement makes it obvious that you have not raised a teenager. They have minds of their own and will do what they know is best. After all, their few years on this earth and the vast knowledge they have accumulated trumps their parents teachings.  :lol


To say that all teenagers will do what they will regardless of their parents wishes is an over-generalization. Many, if not most, teens will listen to their parents and do as they wish - be it out of fear, respect, or responsibility. That is, if they were raised that way.

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No one is suggesting Sarah Palin was helpless. No parent has control of a teen aged child once that child steps out the door. When they step out the door you are trusting that they will adhere to what you have taught them in the past and that they will exercise good judgment. However, our children, like us, are not perfect and they make mistakes.





A parent should be able to evaluate whether their teen is rebellious or irresponsible. That parent should not let that teen walk out the door. That parent should exert the control over their child that they rightfully can. Evaluate the situation, take control as your power allows. She should have done this, and done what was right.

Palin may one day person need to make dire decisions affecting matters of national security. This would be based on her ability to evaluate situations comprised of very complicated factors. A person requiring that ability to scrutinize should at the very least be able to evaluate their own child.

Now, I don't think that this alone disqualifies her for the position. It certainly does not help. I hope for her sake that there are not too many more examples of her being a weak airhead.

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To suggest that Sarah Palin can't control her daughter simply because she got pregnant is grasping at straws.

Though it may not prove it beyond a doubt, it certainly is an indicator. It's not a straw, it's a solid brick in what could be a larger foundation.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #282 on: September 03, 2008, 10:06:00 AM »
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He is stating that the kids should have proper education from all sides of the subject at that point the kid can make a "educated" choice about their own life if they are in that situation. He wants them to have been taught about proper protection rather than find out the hard way because they didn't know any better.

Yup, he said that as well. Yet there is no denying his statement that he doesn't want his daughters punished with a baby.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #283 on: September 03, 2008, 10:07:05 AM »
You quoted the entire paragraph, the man said....

 And right after that he said:

You are as good of entertainment as Boroda ever was.  :rofl

Do you understand by "mistake" that he means having sex at the wrong time meaning too early and if that happens he wants them to "know" to use protection.. You are blinded by your hate man. That or those Republican rosey glasses are a few shades too dark..
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #284 on: September 03, 2008, 10:11:21 AM »
He is stating that the kids should have proper education from all sides of the subject

And then he quite clearly states that he's "going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."

Spin like a top all you like but he clearly views babies as punishment if his daughter(s) get knocked up. Can't dance around it, can't BS your way to any other interpretation. If you can't understand that you either lack reading comprehension skills or you are lying to yourself.



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If you are implying I don't support abstinence, then you obviously haven't read my other posts.

OK, maybe you do lack reading comprehension skills. You've been bashing Palin for her support of abstinence education and yet your Obamessiah supports it as well. I guess the irony of your posts here escapes you.
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